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    Default Tab or Notation for Waltz in the Bluegrass (Wakefield) ?

    Having a hard time finding tablature for this great song. No luck in Song of the Week either. Anyone have it? I'll work on transcribing it to tab from notation if you have a .pdf or .tef of it as well.

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    Default Re: Tab or Notation for Waltz in the Bluegrass (Wakefield) ?

    Let me look around. I play it but can't remember if I learned it by ear or found the music.


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    So nicely done Sean! One of my favorite waltzes!

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    Default Re: Tab or Notation for Waltz in the Bluegrass (Wakefield) ?

    Why does this one sound so different? Are they (Baldassari, Reischman) adding notes..it sounds a bit different from other versions I hear on You Tube.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FitfM6652ss

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    Default Re: Tab or Notation for Waltz in the Bluegrass (Wakefield) ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Trujillo View Post
    Why does this one sound so different?
    I think mostly its having that rhythm back up. Keeps it all neat and tidy.
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    Default Re: Tab or Notation for Waltz in the Bluegrass (Wakefield) ?

    Butch plays it pretty much the way Frank (the composer) played it on RR0007, where the tremoloed doublestops are on the D and A strings over the F and Gm chords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Trujillo View Post
    Why does this one sound so different?
    Because I'm not Baldassari or Reischman! My version is a bit dirtier/darker and theirs is played straight and pretty. I wish I had 1/100th of their tone and timing. And there are several note and timing flubs in mine. Those are part of my signature sound!

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    Default Re: Tab or Notation for Waltz in the Bluegrass (Wakefield) ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Trujillo View Post
    Having a hard time finding tablature for this great song. No luck in Song of the Week either. Anyone have it? I'll work on transcribing it to tab from notation if you have a .pdf or .tef of it as well.

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    Hey Al, I found it on Mandozine:

    http://mandozine.com/music/search_re...rder=A&submit=

    Enjoy.

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    Well your signature sound is still pretty danged good ! Thanks for sharing your video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgarrity View Post
    I wish I had 1/100th of their tone and timing.
    And I'm still working on getting 1/10th of yours! Looks like it's going to be a long road too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcorax View Post
    Hey Al, I found it on Mandozine:

    http://mandozine.com/music/search_re...rder=A&submit=

    Enjoy.
    Yup...saw that one but I'm thinking my skills aren't close to handling that version. Whew...got tired just following it!

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    Hehe, me too... Looks and sounds like a long term challenge. I'm curious to see how far along will I be able to get on that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Trujillo View Post
    ...saw that one but I'm thinking my skills aren't close to handling that version. ...
    I sketched out some tab based on the Butch Baldassari video below, after listening to the video at half-speed for a while. Seems a little easier than the Mandozine tab.

    Not sure how accurate my version is, there were some things I wasn't certain of (all indicated with text notes), for instance should the accidental be written as C# or Db or some sort of key change? I wrote that note as C# in the printable version, but TablEdit helpfully changed it to Db instead, it *plays/sounds* the same but I don't know which one is technically correct. Etc.

    I also have no idea whether they're actually *playing* the tune in the key of F or if there are alternate tunings involved. My tab & notation is written the way it sounds in the video, in the key of F.

    Totally guessing as to those 7th-fret notes too, sounded like he slid *up* to the note (open 2nd string if in standard tuning), can't slide *up* to an open string, so the 7th fret on the next-lower string seemed a logical choice I guess... so that's how I notated it. Also I'm clueless as to most of the double-stops and chords, which explains their absence.

    Anyway, the tab below might be a place to start, for learning the tune.

    Two options:

    1. TAB and standard notation, in TablEdit/TEFview format:
      waltz-in-the-bluegrass-tab.tef Same speed as video but TablEdit or TEFview will slow it down a whole bunch for practicing.

    2. TAB and standard notation, printable PDF, it's a normal pdf even though it shows black preview. 3 pages:

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    Nearly all of the tremolo notes were slow enough and timed evenly enough to be actual notes, so I wrote them as notes, but you don't have to play all of them. If there's a bunch of identical notes all in a row, to make it easier, just play the first one of the bunch and ignore the rest. When first learning the tune, that is.

    So anyway that's about as good as I can do with those tabs. Corrections and/or revised/improved versions welcome.

    Reference:

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    Default Re: Tab or Notation for Waltz in the Bluegrass (Wakefield) ?

    Cool to re-visit this number and read all of the well-written studies and ideas here. And listening to The Travellers version, am struck with the beauty and flawless technique, particularly by Butch (no surprise).

    FW (composer) recorded it twice, on Rounder 0007 and later on End Of The Rainbow. On both, he kicks it into 4x time, which was always fun. Tony Trischka takes a great break on the Rounder record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL277z View Post
    I sketched out some tab based on the Butch Baldassari video below, after listening to the video at half-speed for a while. Seems a little easier than the Mandozine tab.
    You put a lot of work into that JL...everyone who searches for this song in the future will greatly benefit from it. Thank you !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Trujillo View Post
    You put a lot of work into that JL...everyone who searches for this song in the future will greatly benefit from it. Thank you !!
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    Default Re: Tab or Notation for Waltz in the Bluegrass (Wakefield) ?

    Such a lovely tune and a beautiful reminder of what a masters of tone and tremolo Butch Baldasarri was, and Reischman is...
    Last edited by Jim Roberts; Feb-06-2017 at 2:38pm.

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    Default Re: Tab or Notation for Waltz in the Bluegrass (Wakefield) ?

    So I've been playing JL227z's work....I'm by no means and expert player (maybe they'll chime in) -but I think you've nailed it. Having fun with it this afternoon !!

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