To this day I look around for my dad when someone says Mr. Edgerton.
To this day I look around for my dad when someone says Mr. Edgerton.
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
here is why it matters. My Dad is 73, his memory is slipping and his gullibility increasing. He has a Taylor guitar, and at some point had some bills coming due. instead of telling us kids, he went and had it appraised. The guy told him it was 24 years old, hold onto it a year, then it would be vintage and skyrocket in value to over 30k.
The real value of it is about 1200. But he has his hopes set on giving me this 30k guitar. My hope is he can go to his grave thinking he gave me a very valuable "vintage" guitar based on that scam-artists rather sketchy use of a word to give an old man false hope.
Side note, when we found out we covered the expenses. It just smurfs me off to have people using bad phrases and logic to set people up for heartbreak.
Jim
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1924 Gibson A4 - 2018 Campanella A-5 - 2007 Brentrup A4C - 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin - Huss & Dalton DS - 1923 Gibson A2 black snakehead - '83 Flatiron A5-2 - 1939 Gibson L-00 - 1936 Epiphone Deluxe - 1928 Gibson L-5 - ca. 1890s Fairbanks Senator Banjo - ca. 1923 Vega Style M tenor banjo - ca. 1920 Weymann Style 25 Mandolin-Banjo - National RM-1
When I first got interested in bluegrass and old-time music, Bill Monroe's F-5 was 48 years old and Clarence White's D-28 was 36 years old, and everyone I knew considered them to be "vintage" instruments ... as were lesser-quality instruments of the same era.
At that time, the term was more-or-less synonymous with "prewar," and not necessarily hobbled with connotations of quality. Vintage instrument dealers I frequented often had cheap parlor guitars and funky (but old) mandolins and banjos hanging alongside the Martins and Gibsons. They were all vintage, but they weren't all great.
"Used" instruments were 25 years old or younger, "vintage" ones older than that. 50 years down the line, it seems entirely reasonable that an instrument made in the '70s could be considered vintage. Whether it's desirable or not is another matter.
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There was also Pete's Guitar in St. Paul, Minnesota. He mainly dealt in electrics. But would carry acoustics. At the time the shop was open, I was only interested in electric instruments, so can't relate any good stories about acoustics. He opened the store sometime in the 1970's.
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Guitar Center has a vintage designation and a used designation, I should ask my friend that works there what assuredly arbitrary criteria they use to put things in the vintage category.
Well it's just too bad as we get older and become ***vintage*** we don't get better like wine or instruments. We just get older.
THE WORLD IS A BETTER PLACE JUST FOR YOUR SMILE!
You gotta like yourself at any age. And, at my age, I also enjoy the Taco Bell senior discount, which usually takes care of the tax.
I should add, I get that discount without asking -- not sure how the teenagers at the register know without asking for id......................
I always figure "vintage" means "older than me"!
I didn't see another mention of it, but in the antique trade, 100 years old or more is defined as antique... As has been mentioned, vintage pertains to a particular period of origin, however Ruby Lane (a well known antique house) says vintage should not be less than 20 years old.
Now "over the hill", that's what happens when your kids begin to walk.
-- Don
"Music: A minor auditory irritation occasionally characterized as pleasant."
"It is a lot more fun to make music than it is to argue about it."
2002 Gibson F-9
2016 MK LFSTB
1975 Suzuki taterbug (plus many other noisemakers)
[About how I tune my mandolins]
[Our recent arrival]
THE WORLD IS A BETTER PLACE JUST FOR YOUR SMILE!
vintage to me is earth shoes, bell bottom jeans & a Mach one Mustang from 1971.
Allen Hopkins
Gibsn: '54 F5 3pt F2 A-N Custm K1 m'cello
Natl Triolian Dobro mando
Victoria b-back Merrill alumnm b-back
H-O mandolinetto
Stradolin Vega banjolin
Sobell'dola Washburn b-back'dola
Eastmn: 615'dola 805 m'cello
Flatiron 3K OM
Jeff Mando...I thought the Taco Bells just gave a free small drink instead of a discount, I guess it varies from place to place...Most senior discounts are 10% so if your state taxes are set at 10% you must live in a "rich" state...
Sorry for getting off of the OP`s subject, I didn`t start it though...
Willie
No problem! I'm the OP and I have no objections.
I always like reading the various tangents that forum threads sometimes go on, because that's often where I learn stuff that I didn't even know that I didn't know (if that makes sense).
And of course humor is always welcome, it's good to laugh. Many excellent posts in this thread, & I especially loved the cheese & socks posts.
So I don't want anyone to worry about being off topic, IMO the reason for forum threads is to learn stuff & have fun. Looking good!
Also, I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who's posted.
I always thought,like in cars,that 20 yrs. is classic,50 yrs. vintage,and 100 yrs. is antique...
This reminds me of when relatives were visiting from scandinavia and after a spending the day sight seeing we went to a local "antique" shop. As we walked through browsing the cousin asked with a chuckle "where are the antiques?" Most of the items they observed were "used" daily items... and no where near what they considered antiques in the old country.
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