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    Anybody play this one?
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    Have you heard Richard Thompson's original version? Awesome.


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    Where has THIS song been all my life! Yeah, it's a really good one.
    That's what I should have called this thread- Where has this song been all my life-
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    Hah! I have heard RT play that one many many times. I did not know it had also been bluegrassized. Excellent! That song is a movie or novel in itself.
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    If I can find out how to do it, I'll post an mp3 file of my Band's version

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard.g.hampton View Post
    If I can find out how to do it, I'll post an mp3 file of my Band's version

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    That would be great.
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    I've been playing it for a few years. Good song.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    I've been playing it for a few years. Good song.
    Do you Bluegrass it up or kind of like the original?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    Hah! I have heard RT play that one many many times. I did not know it had also been bluegrassized. Excellent! That song is a movie or novel in itself.
    I am always surprised by bluegrass folks that think a song is original to that music when it had a completely different genre birth....this being one of them......and that the many many folks on this Café that don't know that there are bluegrass versions being done all the time of those songs...and the bluegrass police even like this song.....music is music....take it or leave it.....Duffy doing the theme from the movie Exodus or my brother and me playing In the Mood back in the mid 60's....


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    You go, Girl!

    You mean to say The Virginia Squires didn't write Hooked On a Feeling? I'm crushed....

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    05 Vincent Black Lightening 1952.mp3

    If this works, it's my band's version...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard.g.hampton View Post
    05 Vincent Black Lightening 1952.mp3

    If this works, it's my band's version...

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    Really, really enjoyed your version Richard. Thanks for sharing that, well done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dusty miller View Post
    Really, really enjoyed your version Richard. Thanks for sharing that, well done!

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    Many thanks, Kris - very much appreciated. As you can hear it owes much to Del's version, but we do try not to do a slavish copy.

    All the best


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Hedrick View Post
    I am always surprised by bluegrass folks that think a song is original to that music when it had a completely different genre birth....this being one of them......and that the many many folks on this Café that don't know that there are bluegrass versions being done all the time of those songs...and the bluegrass police even like this song.....music is music....take it or leave it.....Duffy doing the theme from the movie Exodus or my brother and me playing In the Mood back in the mid 60's....


    Ah the mysteries of life....
    I don't think anyone implied Del wrote the tune. I am a bluegrasser so that's the version I like best. I first heard two college kids do it, then Del McCoury, then the original. I don't listen to much Dylan but I love the Grateful Dead versions of some of the songs he wrote. I don't really care who wrote it just if it appeals to me or not with the version I discover. Many great versions of this great song out there including the original.
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    This is a good example of a song where the re-make is at least equal to the original. Brilliant source material by RT, but the Del version does a better job of building to the crescendo--with that banjo-only lull before blasting off. The backup ingeniously supports the lyrics with all kinds of interesting things happening in backup that changes on each verse, including some tasteful use of dissonance. And Del has the perfect "I'm just talking on the right notes" style for telling this epic tale. It's really a PhD thesis in BG arranging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dusty miller View Post
    Do you Bluegrass it up or kind of like the original?
    Closer to the original. I don't know if anyone can match Richard Thompson.
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    I think it's a great song. I like the original, I enjoy the McCoury version and I enjoy Grandpa Banana's version as well.
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    Grandpa sounds great esp on that Giacomel 5 string tenor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AW Meyer View Post
    I think it's a great song. I like the original, I enjoy the McCoury version and I enjoy Grandpa Banana's version as well.
    I agree with you there, all great versions!

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    Well, I may be a member of the Richard Thompson Faithful, but I don't think you can ever beat the original in this case. I listen to all of them regularly, but here is one of my favorite versions. It's a beautiful, moving love song, an acoustic fingerpicking tour de force, and his lyrics and especially phrasing as he sings the end of each verse is just beautiful.

    That being said, I enjoy the covers, too. Nice job, Richard Hampton, I like your arrangement. And I'd never heard the Grandpa Banana version before, so thanks for that. While we're discussing covers of this amazing tune, here's one other worth listening to. I particularly appreciate the proper attribution to the writer, and the correct song title.
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    Thanks for pointing that out. You can feel better about your day now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanN View Post
    You go, Girl!

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    Well I thought they did........I'm lost and disappointed Alan......

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    I'm normally not a fan of performers monkeying around too much with lyrics, but Del McCoury's decision to change "Box Hill" to "Knoxville" was pretty damn cool.
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    Oh it works Richard - it works mate - really nice - straight onto the ipod! I've only ever heard the RT version before. I'll need to learn how to play this one on my Eastman 604BD. RT is by far my faourite artist as I have been a fan since I was a lad of 16 & I'm mid 40s now & have never stopped listening & attempting copy despite my length of hair or musical genre currently in favour! Nice work, I'm genuinely impressed!

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