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    Nashport, Ohio is not too far from my office. If anyone is interested in the mando, send me $25,000 cashiers check and I will send you a Gibson A model. Heck, I'll even pay shipping.

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    Antique Hand-Made 8-string Mandolin Style Instrumental on Facebook Marketplace

    Definitely hand-made, in fair condition. Playable, but used as antique decoration for years in our family.
    Here's a real bargain at half the price! Handcrafted hardware, too. Checkout the tuners and the tailpiece. Bill James could learn a thing or two from this maker.

    Hey, you never know. This could be one of Schmergel's early works or a prototype for the Devastator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    This could be one of Schmergel's early works or a prototype for the Devastator.
    If it is, the Devastator is a myth, for this was pryed from the hands of the charred corpse of its maker after a workshop fire, apparently. Torrefaction gone wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    This could be one of Schmergel's early works or a prototype for the Devastator.
    Except he was still working on the model name as well. Instead of the Devastator, it was the Devastated.
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    There is no "c" in Shmergel. Just saving Allen some extra work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    There is no "c" in Shmergel. Just saving Allen some extra work.
    Actually, the Schmergel brothers, Carl and August, started out working together but there was some bad blood and Carl left and started his own shop and he was the more famous of the two. He had to change the spelling of his name to avoid devastating lawsuits from his estranged brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    Antique Hand-Made 8-string Mandolin Style Instrumental This could be one of Schmergel's early works or a prototype for the Devastator.
    I doubt it is a Shmergel... But it could be a Shmergel. It has some (sort of) Shmergel traits.

    I saw a mandolin that had strings on it just like this one that someone said reminded them of a Devastator.

    Carlos and Augustus Shmergel, nee Schmergel?

    I'm devastated.

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    A used Michael Kelly north of $2K? Well, I guess They're Not Making Any More of These! Their Value Will Only Increase!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunello97 View Post
    I doubt it is a Shmergel... But it could be a Shmergel. It has some (sort of) Shmergel traits.

    I saw a mandolin that had strings on it just like this one that someone said reminded them of a Devastator.

    Carlos and Augustus Shmergel, nee Schmergel?

    I'm devastated.

    Mick
    Mick - you're close.
    I believe it is a "Smeagol," wrought in the forges of the Dark Tower to annoy elven ears. And to confuse mandolinists in search of the elusive "Devastator."

    It was wrought following his success at forging a ring of power. Since "One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them." worked out so well for a long time, Sauron thought he could dragoon all the "Devastators" together through a mandolin of power.

    You know, "One Mandolin to rule them all, One Mandolin to find them, One Mandolin to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them." This is why the Devastators are so seldom seen. They were hidden when the Dark Lord's intentions were perceived, and their whereabouts are only known to certain princes of the Cafe, who quietly play them to heal the hurts of the musical world.

    Or something like that.

    Maybe Scott has one...or Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmando View Post
    A used Michael Kelly north of $2K? Well, I guess They're Not Making Any More of These! Their Value Will Only Increase!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ Donahue View Post
    Mick - you're close.
    I believe it is a "Smeagol," wrought in the forges of the Dark Tower to annoy elven ears. And to confuse mandolinists in search of the elusive "Devastator."

    It was wrought following his success at forging a ring of power. Since "One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them." worked out so well for a long time, Sauron thought he could dragoon all the "Devastators" together through a mandolin of power.

    You know, "One Mandolin to rule them all, One Mandolin to find them, One Mandolin to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them." This is why the Devastators are so seldom seen. They were hidden when the Dark Lord's intentions were perceived, and their whereabouts are only known to certain princes of the Cafe, who quietly play them to heal the hurts of the musical world.

    Or something like that.

    Maybe Scott has one...or Mike.
    I appreciate the "Lord of the Rings" reference....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ Donahue View Post
    Mick - you're close.
    I believe it is a "Smeagol," wrought in the forges of the Dark Tower to annoy elven ears. And to confuse mandolinists in search of the elusive "Devastator."

    It was wrought following his success at forging a ring of power. Since "One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them." worked out so well for a long time, Sauron thought he could dragoon all the "Devastators" together through a mandolin of power.

    You know, "One Mandolin to rule them all, One Mandolin to find them, One Mandolin to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them." This is why the Devastators are so seldom seen. They were hidden when the Dark Lord's intentions were perceived, and their whereabouts are only known to certain princes of the Cafe, who quietly play them to heal the hurts of the musical world.

    Or something like that.

    Maybe Scott has one...or Mike.
    Thanks for the hint. Now we know what to do with that. Where is the nearest volcano?
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    From the darkened closets of Guitar Center Vintage...

    This 1920s(?) A-3 is a bit scary. If it was less than 1/2 the asking price perhaps someone would buy it and with mercy restore it to playable. I don't know what that pickup is. it is stamped "Ideal." GC vintage listings are notorious for having terrible photos.

    It does look like it has original tuners and besides being probably a refinished whiteface might be in semi-decent condition. Unless, of course, the top was cut open to install that pickup.

    I just did a quick search and the Ideal pickup was made in germany and wasthe first pickup to be used for bouzoukis. I don't know how it picked up 8 strings with 6 pole pieces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    I don't know how it picked up 8 strings with 6 pole pieces.
    The field eminating from a pole piece is circular-ish, so a 6-pole pickup will work fine, just doesn't give you as convenient adjustment as a 4-pole pickup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Jacobson View Post
    The field eminating from a pole piece is circular-ish, so a 6-pole pickup will work fine, just doesn't give you as convenient adjustment as a 4-pole pickup.

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    Thank you, Professor Jacobson. That makes a lot of sense.
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    If it was $500 or so I might give it consideration - that would be a price I could afford and I am (casually) looking for a 1920s Gibson. But needing work at the price they are asking, no thanks.

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