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    Does anyone have any idea of the value of one of these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor View Post
    Does anyone have any idea of the value of one of these? Thanks.
    I've never even seen one -- only heard of them. Do you have one?
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    I have been offered one as a trade in.
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    Default Re: Kentucky KM-2000 Dawg

    The later KM-Dawg models were called, KM-2000, same thing. I used to own one - in 1992 - and got about $ 2000,- for it. I'm not sure what they go for these days. All I've seen were wonderful mandolins. Why should they bring less than a current Sumi-Dawg? You might want to check those out.

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    Thanks. I've been told its not a Sumi..
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    Default Re: Kentucky KM-2000 Dawg

    Last one sold for $3500. I've seen as low as $3000 but never more than $4000.

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    Thanks Daryl.
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    Default Re: Kentucky KM-2000 Dawg

    While we're chatting about KM-DAWGS . . . I have #39 -- 1984. Recently bought if from great guitarist Sergio Lara . . . Anybody have any backstory on this particular mandolin before Sergio acquired it? He said it had been in Nashville. It sure looks like it has been on stage a lot!

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    Glad Sergio found a buyer for his Dawg. I sold one in the Classifieds for around $3300 to $3500 about 3 years ago. Don't know if that's the one Tom is thinking of or not. It sold VERY quickly and I probably could have gotten more for it.
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    Trevor, I'm not Darryl . Many seem to confuse us. Other than born the same year and love Loars, Martins, cats and Bluegrass not much more in common. Darryl never had F5Loar. He had F5Journal and has since just gone to his name for more positive ID. I go by Tom, if I owe you money or you are looking for me to serve something on me I go by Charles.

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    Thanks Tom, sorry for the mix up, unfortunately (for me) you don't owe me anything..
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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor View Post
    I've been told its not a Sumi..
    That piqued my curiosity a bit: I thought Sumi did all the building of the KM-1500, KM-Dawg and KM-2000, no? Or was the KM-2000 a later model that came out after Sumi had stopped building for the company? Who ended up building these?

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    If Sumi didn't build this one, I doubt it would fetch like a Dawg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenS View Post
    While we're chatting about KM-DAWGS . . . I have #39 -- 1984. Recently bought if from great guitarist Sergio Lara . . . Anybody have any backstory on this particular mandolin before Sergio acquired it? He said it had been in Nashville. It sure looks like it has been on stage a lot! Click image for larger version. 

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    That is some nice mandolin -- it looks to be if pretty good shape to me? Does it need frets etc.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by f5loar View Post
    Trevor, I'm not Darryl . Many seem to confuse us....I go by Tom, if I owe you money or you are looking for me to serve something on me I go by Charles.
    Gosh, Tom: It seems to me that if you owe somebody money going by Darryl might not be a bad idea.
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    Bernie,

    #39 was ready for some new frets - I actually replaced the whole fingerboard because the scoop job really did a number on the available scale up the neck. Also made a new bridge to replace the old Baggs pickup bridge that was only making contact at a few points on the top and made a new MOP nut to match what it started with back in '84.

    Now, it is sounding like the classic gem it is . . . and was.

    This has clearly been one busy mandolin - lots of little mic dings in the top and plenty of right arm wear in the lacquer finish on the bass side of the lower bout - but plays like butter and is ready for a lot more work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor View Post
    Thanks Tom, sorry for the mix up, unfortunately (for me) you don't owe me anything..
    trevor ........ he owes me a LOT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by John McCoy View Post
    Gosh, Tom: It seems to me that if you owe somebody money going by Darryl might not be a bad idea.
    Alternatively, if Darryl owes someone money, putting up a smokescreen with Tom's name might be just as clever.

    Back to subject, the 2000 that StevenS has is a beaut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueron View Post
    Back to subject, the 2000 that StevenS has is a beaut.
    Just to be clear, Sergio's old mandolin, which Steve now owns, is a Sumi-built KM-Dawg from the 1980s. The mandolin that's been offered to Trevor is a KM-2000. The KM-2000 evidently was available from 1991 to 1995. I think what's being suggested here is that the KM-2000, although it resembles the Dawg, wasn't built by Sumi. A little more research would probably confirm this one way or the other. (I'd never heard of a KM-2000 till this thread came along.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by f5loar View Post
    I'm not Darryl ....I go by Tom, if I owe you money or you are looking for me to serve something on me I go by Charles.
    or Evan Reilly, maybe...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmando View Post
    Just to be clear, Sergio's old mandolin, which Steve now owns, is a Sumi-built KM-Dawg from the 1980s. The mandolin that's been offered to Trevor is a KM-2000. The KM-2000 evidently was available from 1991 to 1995. I think what's being suggested here is that the KM-2000, although it resembles the Dawg, wasn't built by Sumi. A little more research would probably confirm this one way or the other. (I'd never heard of a KM-2000 till this thread came along.)
    I used to own a KM-2000, bought it brand new in mid '92, should have been built around that time. It was one fine mandolin and built exactly like the two earlier KM-Dawgs I had played. I firmly believe that Eiichi Sumi had his hands on it, which might be supported by Scott Zimmerman of the Desert Rose shop, who said the following about Sumi's involvement with Saga:
    The Kentucky Maruko craft shop opperated from 1980 and from the beginning was a team lead by the famous Tahara san. Sumi was the first member and from the beginning his abilities made him a lead member.

    The team broke up in 1987 and Sumi assumed ownership of the shop and sole luthier status.

    He built Kentuckys solo from 1987 until late 1992 early 1993

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    If the mandolin was built before 1987 Sumi had a substantial amount of work in it as he was the primary carver in the Maruko shop. If it was built after 1987 he built it one hundred percent as the shop was his solely. As we have discussed here many times before, there were a total of 48 Dawg/ 2000 mandolins built. The Maruko shop stopped making all Kentuckys in early 1993 when Sumi started building his brand. No Dawg/ 2000 were made after 1993. Because of the timeline Sumi actually probably built more 2000 himself than Dawgs, because many Dawgs were built while the team still was together and he was a team member then. And 2000 came after Dawg. My first visit to the Maruko shop was in 1989, Sumi was building Dawgs and 1500 that day. The hand carved Dawg back and braced top made by Monteleone as a guide was hanging on a nail, I was at the shop two days ago and the top and back are still hanging on the same nail

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Sorensen View Post
    While we're chatting about KM-DAWGS . . . I have #39 -- 1984. Recently bought if from great guitarist Sergio Lara . . . Anybody have any backstory on this particular mandolin before Sergio acquired it? He said it had been in Nashville. It sure looks like it has been on stage a lot!

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    Hi Steve I have #41

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