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    Have been negotiating this with Andrew for the past 6 months and it arrived yesterday!
    Have plugged in to my Polytone Megabrute and plan to have a go with my full effects rig and Boogie Mark III tonight... Thanks Andrew!

    More fun to follow...

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    Breathtaking!
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    I am seeking a reccomendation for strings that would have the effect of making this Jerman emando play and feel more like an Electric Guitar. The strings currently on this instrument are the stainless version of J74's - but to me it feels like there is too much tension.
    Can anyone reccomend something a little softer in an Electric 8 string set?

    TS

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    Ted,
    I tried getting as close to the J-74's as I could. There are .042's on the G whereas the J-74 use .040, so you can drop down to a .040 or .038. An .036 will be difficult to intonate. The others .010/.016/.026W match with the J-74. You may have to bring the saddles back a bit if you drop down to a .038.

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    Thanks Andrew - for everything....

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    Nice!
    Hereby & forthwith, any instrument with an odd number of strings shall be considered broken. With regard to mix levels, usually the best approach is treating the mandolin the same as a cowbell.

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    Beautiful mandolin! I love the top figure and the color.

    i also have one of andrew's 4 strings and love it. I started with j74s and had the same feeling you're having. Wanted that tele feel/bendability. Ted at jazzmando.com's JM10Bs solved everything. Flat wound so they slide like guitar strings and to me, they feel like they have less tension than j74s. Very bendable. I think you'll be really happy with them and Ted's a great guy.

    On a side emando note, I was only semi happy with the tone I was getting until I plugged it into the pedalboard I use for my fiddle. An LR Baggs Venue, a reverb, delay peddle and a bbe sonic stomp. MAN, just the baggs really peps up the mandolin. Just a thought.

    Enjoy and congrats!

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    Magnificent! Congratulations.
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    Its a beauty.

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    Nice maple indeed. Schweet! Congrats to both you and Andrew.

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    Sweeeeeeet! Martin Stillion, Emando.com, can put together a custom set of strings...

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    Beautiful work Andrew! Great lookin piece!
    John

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    I tried JS74's but the stiffness factor is still prevalent.
    I will be contacting Martin or Ted soon for solutions but for the time being am set for a while.
    Simply woodshedding and getting used to the feel of it.

    At the same time I am A/B'ing it with an astounding Nugget A loaned to me by Paul Kotapish which is undoubtedly one of the nicest sounding and easiest playing mandolin's I've ever had my hands on, but at the same time, I do miss the bark and woof of my Stolen Smart (which was more capable of going toe to toe with a banjo and a full BG Band than this lovely Nugget).

    I am also expecting another Emando from Andrew:a custom Koa 5 String.
    Stand by for further drool worthy pics and an update when this arrives.

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    Wow she's a beauty, Andrew! Ted, I'm not sure an 8-string e-mando can be made to play and feel like an electric guitar - maybe a 4 or 5 stringer but I think a double course electric mandolin is probably gonna feel and play more like an electric 12 string than an electric 6 string. I use JazzMando JM10-B flatwounds on my 8-string electric and really like 'em.

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    beautiful mando, I know I am a bit late hopping in here, but wonder if you have any youtube clips of it. That is one of the nicest I have seen! I am looking into buying a good electric hand, an 8 string...
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    Beautiful instrument!

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    nice!

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    I'm going to hijack this thread. I'm really thinking of moving that neck joint back to the 12th fret on the eight string. It looks like the bridge is too far forward when I use the typical tailpiece. I like the placement on the five string. It seems more balanced on the body. It doesn't look too bad when I use a stop tailpiece with the TOM bridge on the eight string as it sits about 2-3" aft of the bridge. I wondered about using a trapeze also but wasn't sure if that would make the top too busy. Any thoughts, opinions or suggestions?

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    I'm going to hijack this thread. I'm really thinking of moving that neck joint back to the 12th fret on the eight string. It looks like the bridge is too far forward when I use the typical tailpiece. I like the placement on the five string. It seems more balanced on the body. It doesn't look too bad when I use a stop tailpiece with the TOM bridge on the eight string as it sits about 2-3" aft of the bridge. I wondered about using a trapeze also but wasn't sure if that would make the top too busy. Any thoughts, opinions or suggestions?
    I personally like the bigger back end on a emando . I have long arms and am 6' 1" tall . with the bigger mando butt i can pivot the mando out towards the audience and have have less bend at my elbows and more freedom of movement . mind you i like to hang my emando lower to my waist than traditional bluegrass height . but i do not hang it past my groin like certain rock styles either .

    so i would say both are a good options that should be offered to suit the players style . it is a small instrument so it is hard to make it look symmetrical and still have booty

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    Very interesting question Andrew. I look forward to hearing the thoughts of others.
    One nice thing about moving the neck joint to the 12th fret is that the lower bridge position would allow for pinky swells on the volume knob. It would also make room for an optional second pick-up.
    Would moving the bridge location effect tone in any way?
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    here is my holding style Attachment 80069 and here Attachment 80070

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    No, I don't think it would affect the tone at all. It might open up space for a second pickup but I don't really see a need for it especially with the three way switch. It will affect the neck angle because the bridge is currently sitting on the down slope of the arched top, so the bridge height will go higher causing more angle or increasing the height of the fretboard off the body which in turn will require a taller pick up ring to bring the pickup up with everything else. Hope you can follow all that. I guess I could reduce the arch some but really hate to do that.

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    Have been negotiating this with Andrew for the past 6 months and it arrived yesterday!
    Have plugged in to my Polytone Megabrute and plan to have a go with my full effects rig and Boogie Mark III tonight... Thanks Andrew!

    More fun to follow...
    Andrew gave me some great tips on my e-mandolin build. I would love to see and hold one of his instruments in my hands. He certainly did choose a beautiful piece of lumber for your mandolin. Looks like a great instrument from the pictures. Thanks for sharing.

    Matt

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