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    Can anybody recommend some violin studies they have found helpful for mandolin? Something in the intermediate and above range; standard notation naturally.

    Looking for something that will get me into some new finger patterns and break me out of some ruts. Having the exercises sound "musical" would be a help as well.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Maybe not exactly what you had in mind, but if you're a reader, then you might like this.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails positionshifting.pdf   positionshifting[1].pdf  

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    These are ones I worked with, mostly in the early 1980's when I studied with a violinist who was a crony of Joe Venuti's. Upped my technical dexterity so that I could take on electric rock and blues guitar stuff, from Hooker to Hendrix, and have it not sound like a joke. Doublestops and fluid shifting all over the neck essential for doing guitar stuff on mandolin and have it sound like it "belongs" on mando.

    Sevcik: School of Violin Technics, Parts 1-4 (Schirmer)
    Hoffmann: Double-Stop Studies for the Violin (Boston Music Co.)
    Kayser: Elementary and Progressive Studies for the Violin (Schirmer)
    P. Rovelli: 12 Caprices (Carl Fischer)
    Kruetzer: 42 Caprices (Schirmer)

    These have etudes or partial etudes from numerous pedagogues: Dont, Kayser, Sevcik, Wolfhart etc.
    Harvey S. Whistler: Preparing For Kreutzer, Vol 1-2 (Rubank)
    Harvey S. Whistler:Introducing The Positions for Violin Vol 1-2 (Rubank)

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    In addition to the ones already mentioned, check out Josephine Trott's Melodious Double-Stops for some progressive double stops.
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    It's not exactly an Etude, but I don't think you can get much better than Bach's solo Partitas and Sonatas for violin. The violin most commonly used during the Baroque era (Bach, Handel, Vivaldi, etc) had a flatter bridge which made 3 or even 4 simultaneous notes possible on the violin. This makes baroque violin music especially relevant for mandolin players.

    Bach's Partitas for Violin in particular are a blast to play on mandolin. You can definitely hear a Renaissance/Celtic/Bluegrass vibe in a couple of the movements in Partita #3 (if you're into that).

    And Partita #2 is some of the most perfect music you will ever hear or play on a solo instrument. You could take a few days to get through each movement, or spend a lifetime trying to master just this Partita (especially the famous, 22 part Chaconne).

    Here is an example I found on Youtube of a very young Itzhak Perlman playing the 4th movement of Partita 2. Besides being amazing music, this is a serious workout on mandolin.

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    Thanks for the suggestions everybody. I think I'll start with Sevcik. They recently released all four parts in one Volume. Seems to touch on things that interest me position shifts, double stops etc.

    I have the Bach Bach's solo Partitas and Sonatas. Very intense stuff. Yes once in a while I pick my way through a few parts but it's slow going for me. I'm hoping a violin method might be a little easier to digest.

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    I secod the Kreutzer. Especially for working up the neck.
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    All great mentions...

    I second Wohlfarht - early books stay in 1st position, but go all over 1st position.

    Also I second the Whistler Introducing the Positions (Books 1 and 2) - boring...but you will know your positions by the time you are done with them!
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    Nobody has yet mentioned Fiorillo. As a student I remember I always thought that for etudes, his were the most musical and fun to play. Not boring like some.

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    Default Re: Violin Etudes/Studies for mandolin advancement

    I know this is an ancient thread, but I just purchased most of the books mentioned in this thread, I think they will be VERY helpful in getting me to progress! And the exercises look like fun!

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