Hi folks,
I've been toying with the idea of possibly getting a Gold Tone Cripple Creek Irish Tenor, as they're not terribly expensive as entry banjos go. Does anyone here play one (or, have you played one), and, if so, what do you think of it?
Hi folks,
I've been toying with the idea of possibly getting a Gold Tone Cripple Creek Irish Tenor, as they're not terribly expensive as entry banjos go. Does anyone here play one (or, have you played one), and, if so, what do you think of it?
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I have one and love it played with Sacramento banjos for a couple years with it I did remove the resonator and changed the 4 string to a 43 other than that I really like it my wife has their tenor model also
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I was very favorably impressed with the one at Janet Davis in Arkansas. Beautifully finished, bright and loud. Action was good. It was showcased, had a front-and center position in their banjo room, so they were obviously impressed, also. The price makes it a real bargain in comparison with vintage tenors. I'm fairly sure that it is a 17 fret neck, which I prefer, but many players would rather have the longer neck. I wasn't buying (a D hole Bighorn mandola stole my heart) but it was worlds better than the open-back parts banjo that I fool with. I didn't get the mandola, either. I see on the Gold Tone website that the tuners have been upgraded on the 2010 model. If you buy, that is significant. The tuners on the one I played were like the StuMac utility grade ones.
Last edited by Mike Snyder; Mar-20-2010 at 4:37am. Reason: make 'em give you the new tuners
Mike Snyder
I've not seen the Gold Tone ones in hand but I've been impressed with how Deering's good Time banjo's look and sound. When I was hanging out with a guy who had one he said it was a pretty good banjo from all he could tell. His was a 5 string open back model. The Deering one is priced similarly to the Gold Tone one you were looking at, so you have a couple of options, if you can get your hands on some.
Jamie
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The Deering is a great little banjo. Two things to be aware of are; No trussrod in the neck, probably not a problem, just sayin'. I don't care for the finger-jointed headstock, the neck/head are not one piece, again, my objection is aesthetic, rather than functional. Also, the fingerboard is the neck, in maple. I guess that makes it three. No ebony. All these things are not likely to effect the playability or tone. Lots of electric guitars out there with that style neck. If there is a problem, you can call Deering and talk to someone who has answers. Not so with the Gold Tone. If players do not buy instruments made stateside, someday no instruments will be made stateside. Best of luck with your purchase, and let us know how it goes.
Mike Snyder
Thanks for the observations, Mike. I don't play banjo (but I really like the sound of an open back 5 stringer). I know the two brands are priced comparably. Your information ought to help.
Jamie
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Yeah, the one I'm looking at has the new 2010 tuners shown on the website.
If I end up getting this one, though, I may not have any more room in my house!
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"When I heard what Socrates had done on the lyre, I wished indeed even [I had done] that...but certainly I labored hard in letters!" - Cicero, "Cato the Elder on Old Age"
Weber Gallatin Mahogany F
19th Century Ferrari(?) Bowlback
Early 20th Century British Mandoline-Banjo & Deering Goodtime Tenor
1960s Harmony Baritone Ukelele
The Magic Fluke Flea Soprano Ukelele (in 5ths!)
1910 German Stradivarius 1717 copy, unknown maker
1890(?) German Stradivarius 1725 copy, G.A. Pfreztschner, maker
Get used to it
Gold Tone is one of the better (if not the best) value in a new import--their products are consistently good. Their B stock items are usually listed on ebay for about 30% below retail.
I may be wrong, but I believe the GT has a brass hoop tone ring, and the standard Goodtime hasn't one (Goodtime II has).
"When I heard what Socrates had done on the lyre, I wished indeed even [I had done] that...but certainly I labored hard in letters!" - Cicero, "Cato the Elder on Old Age"
Weber Gallatin Mahogany F
19th Century Ferrari(?) Bowlback
Early 20th Century British Mandoline-Banjo & Deering Goodtime Tenor
1960s Harmony Baritone Ukelele
The Magic Fluke Flea Soprano Ukelele (in 5ths!)
1910 German Stradivarius 1717 copy, unknown maker
1890(?) German Stradivarius 1725 copy, G.A. Pfreztschner, maker
Yes, right. I do like a resonator on my tenor banjos, especially (as well as a tone ring).
Nice looking banjo, and the soundclip on GT's web site sounds good to my ears as well. (Wierd name for an Irish Tenor though; the River Fergus has a much better ring to it IMHO )
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"When I heard what Socrates had done on the lyre, I wished indeed even [I had done] that...but certainly I labored hard in letters!" - Cicero, "Cato the Elder on Old Age"
Weber Gallatin Mahogany F
19th Century Ferrari(?) Bowlback
Early 20th Century British Mandoline-Banjo & Deering Goodtime Tenor
1960s Harmony Baritone Ukelele
The Magic Fluke Flea Soprano Ukelele (in 5ths!)
1910 German Stradivarius 1717 copy, unknown maker
1890(?) German Stradivarius 1725 copy, G.A. Pfreztschner, maker
Brass hoop tone ring and maple resonator as per Elderly website- The Irish is a nice playing, loud, and attractive banjo.
Mike Snyder
Speaking of Elderly, I see they still have this, which I posted in another thread about a week ago (NFI):
http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/80U-2225.htm
A standard Sears & Roebuck, or Concertone, or Stewart Student model (all essentially the same). With this skin head, it will produce a very different sound (darker, deeper, more complex) than the GT with the plastic head (very bright)...of course, you can change out a frosted plastic head to a fiberskin which approximates calfskin. I have a GT skin head on one of my tenors, and it's far and away the best sounding head (compared with plastic heads). This banjo comes with a nice case too (hint, hint..)
I own a Gold Tone Cripple Creek Irish Tenor Banjo and like it just fine. I agree the tuners should be upgraded; I have an older model. I did however take the resonator off mine, so as to tone it down a bit; they are pretty loud.
Thanks for your support?
I can't help with the tenor question, but I've got a Gold Tone open-back 5-string banjo (Bob Carlin model, 12" pot) and it's an really good value banjo. I got it secondhand, and the tuners were upgraded by the previous owner, but I would highly recommend the Gold Tone banjos. Excellent instruments for the price.
When I was at Elderly last weekend I picked up a Gold Tone IT-800 that I couldn't put down. It had that nice plunky mellow tone that I associate with an open back banjo. The scale was just short enough to still be able to play fiddle tunes mando style. It was just under $1000. It was a pretty sweet instrument.
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IT-800 has a tubaphone-style tone ring...will sound a lot different (better, likely in most banjoist's opinions) than the CC tenor.
Wow, GT has really expanded their line. This one would blast: http://www.goldtone.com/products/det...0F-Irish-Tenor ...40-hole arch-top ring.
Leaving aside evaluation of the instrument under discussion, I'd like to put in my 2¢ of praise for Gold Tone in general. They have shown themselves willing to design and build a variety of unusual instruments, ones that will be of interest only to a limited number of musicians. These "niche market" instruments are all of decent quality and are reasonably priced. Who else will provide ukulele banjos, short-neck tenor banjos, mandolin banjos, five-string mandolas (I own one of their "banjolas," and it's very nice), resonator tenor guitars, etc. etc.? They kept the admirable Rigel mandolin designs going after the American company had to stop building; they make Paul Beard-designed resonator guitars in an affordable price range. I mean, who else would make a baritone ukulele banjo? Those of us who play "off" instruments should be grateful for their willingness to meet our needs.
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I'm really not director of marketing for Elderly, but...speaking of tenor banjos with tubaphone tone rings, here's the real deal: http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/80U-2304.htm
And here's a nice Richelieu with a Whyte Laydie ring: http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/80U-2288.htm
And here's a purdy Leedy: http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/80U-2278.htm
And then of course, there's THIS killer: http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/80U-2234.htm
Okay...I'm done now (NFI).
I had seriously thought about purchasing a Deering Goodtime 17 fret tenor banjo. But looking at the "Princess" instrument linked above at Elderly, it makes me wonder if that would be a better value. Anyone want to weigh in on that? My intent is to use it occasionally to "plunk" along while singing and maybe to play with some old-time jammers. I realize that a 5 string would be better suited to the latter purpose, but I'd like to get by on one purchase. I currently have an old Beltone, which I believe was converted from 4 string to 5 string, and which I have converted back. It needs some serious work.
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