Purchasing a bandolim or cavaquinho?

[Jim Garber]

Is this a DelVechhio on the cover of Jacob's album?

[Jim Garber]

Here is a larger scan.

[Al Bergstein]

I don't know, but Jim I tried to reply to your email and your mailbox is full. Empty out some messages (G).

[Jim Garber]

I deleted some msgs. Oh, I do see that I got a msg telling me that the mailbox is full. Sorry.

[Brad Weiss]

This looks like a pretty good deal. Someone stop me . . . please . . .!

[Jim Garber]

Yeah, I have been looking at that one since it was listed on the Cafe. I was waiting for someone else to snatch it away from me.

[Paul Kotapish]

[QUOTE=Jim Garber;842185]Paul: where did you hear one of Charles' instruments? [QUOTE]

I'm not sure where I first heard of them, but I've been ogling them for years. They remind me a bit of Stefan Sobel's elegant English mandolins in shape and aesthetic, and I'm curious to know whether the archtop thing is popular with the choro enthusiasts.

[Baskervils]

There is a student model Giannini cavaquinho on ebay right now. The sound of mine (not the one on eBay) is a bit boxy, but the build quality / intonation are OK. It comes with a decent built in pickup / tuner. It's a good student cavaco. The auction ends October 8th.

[Jim Garber]

It always helps us if you post a link. There are actually two Giannini cavaquinhos on eBay:

GCSM10EL - it says professional but this price is for a new one

GCSE17 CT EL This one has a cutaway.

Does anyone know about these? Marques rosewood

[Baskervils]

It always helps us if you post a link. There are actually two Giannini cavaquinhos on eBay:

GCSM10EL - it says professional but this price is for a new one

GCSE17 CT EL This one has a cutaway.

Does anyone know about these? Marques rosewood

GCSE17 CT EL (cutaway) - This was the used one I was referring to. It's a cheap one, but a good starter cavaco. The new Gianinni is actually a very good instrument for the price.

[Jim Garber]

BTW what is the difference in the name: cavaco or cavaquinho?

[delsbrother]

I thought it was like uke/ukulele. But I could be wrong.

[Baskervils]

I thought it was like uke/ukulele. But I could be wrong.

Exactly - cavaco/cavaquinho = quick + dirty / prim + proper.

[delsbrother]

OK, next question: how do you say mandola and mandocello in Portuguese?

[Jim Garber]

OK, next question: how do you say mandola and mandocello in Portuguese?

According to Google Translate:

OK, a pergunta seguinte: como vocês dizem mandola e mandocello em Português?

[delsbrother]

Hmm..

Doing some digging into the personnel in this photo (discussed in the Gelas mandolin thread) I did some Googling for the two seated players: Luiz Pinto da Silva and José Alves de Lima. I found at least one Portuguese document online that uses says one of the players played "bandola". The English version of the same document uses "mandola" as a translation, but I'm not sure if they're technically the same instrument. It makes sense, though (bandolim-mandolin/bandola-mandola). So now all I need is the Portuguese word for "cello".

I guess more interesting would be what exactly the role of the bandola player was in choro - simply a lower pitched bandolim? I'm trying to imagine what that would sound like.

[Jim Garber]

Then there is Marilynn Mair'sd article in which she also says:

The earliest identified bandolimist is José Alves, who played bandolim in 1919 for Pixinguinha's first "Os Oito Batutas" (The Eight Hotshots). Also in the band was Luis de Olivera who played bandola.

Perhaps she can shed some light on that instrument?

[delsbrother]

It's funny how these things connect.. If that MM quote is true, that means the earliest known bandolim (and/or bandola) might have actually been a Gelas! Those pictures are from the 'teens.

It's hard to tell about the bandola, though - there's another South/Central American instrument called that and I think it is tuned differently.

[Jim Garber]

Nice picture of a Rogerio Santos bandolim on the Phoenix Museum thread.

[nickster60]

I dont know anything about these instruments but the is one in the Fort Myers Fl Craiglist that looks a lot like one of these

[Jim Garber]

I dont know anything about these instruments but the is one in the Fort Myers Fl Craiglist that looks a lot like one of these

Sorry... are you referring to cavaquinhos or bandolims and does this one look like one of which? A link might help...

[Mandolin Mick]

Hey Jim!

Went to see the Milwaukee Mandolin Orchestra on Saturday and Linda Binder brought up your name to me!

[Jim Garber]

Uh-oh! I am in trouble now. She is quite the musician and nowadays plays her 10-string Ribeiro bandolim which I had a smnall part in her getting a few years back.

[Jim Garber]

GCSE17 CT EL (cutaway) - This was the used one I was referring to. It's a cheap one, but a good starter cavaco. The new Gianinni is actually a very good instrument for the price.

Actually Amazon has that handmade one cheaper than the ebay seller.

[Mandolin Mick]

That's why she brought you up. She was showing me her bandolim. She offered to let me play it after the concert but I had to get going.