Skaggs calls ibma "ignorant"

[kyblue]

Who can define any kind of music any more?

I certainly can't define 'country' any more, or 'rock' or 'pop' or 'folk' or whatever. Thankfully, XM has a feature on that site that allows you to type in an artist and find what channel(s) they might be playing on. Although, it doesn't seem to me like they know where to put some artists either.

Saw Old Crow Medicine Show Saturday night, I've been asked several time what kind of music they play and found myself using several genres to describe them. Hey, XM only puts them on X Country, described as "The roots of greasy, gritty, down-home country infused with folk, rock, and blues." The description sounds a lot like contemporary Nashville might bill itself, but I don't see a lot of parallels between Toby Keith and OCMS.

I guess it's a good thing to me in a way, because I like good music and don't really care what bucket it comes from. Maybe all those different top whatever charts will eventually go the way of the CD, wherever that is.

Paula

[Jim MacDaniel]

I agree: XM's X Country is the antithesis of contemporary (i.e., commercial) Nashville. Where else can you hear Hank III, BR549, Ray Wylie Hubbard, SCOTS, Michelle Shocked, AKUS, Marty Stuart w/ the Staple Singers, Mindy Smith, Dwight Yoakam, Reckless Kelly, Girlyman, King Wilkie, Steve Earle, Ryan Adams, Avett Brothers, Swampdawamp -- and Ricky & Bruce as well -- all during the same broadcast?

[Tim]

Well, it was the music of Bill Monroe- got another definition? #

"Was" is the key word.

Consider this: #Edison invented the light bulb. #If he were somehow brought back around, I'm not sure I'd consider him the authority as to whether lasers, TV tubes and neon lights were "light bulbs".

Still, I maintain that a music genre is something that describes as song. #A song is or isn't in the "accepted" style of the genre. #A musician can play in the style of the genre all the time, sometime or never but he/she is not the genre. #Any song that Ricky Skaggs plays is either bluegrass or not (by some criteria) but even if every song he plays is bluegrass he is not "bluegrass" because he is a musician not a song.

Who decides what is "accepted" is the reason we have these threads. #

Beyond that, I only care about the label to the extent that I don't have to flip by two thousand rap CDs to find a bluegrass CD.

[jim simpson]

I wonder if requests will start to be shouted out for Super Freak at Ricky's shows?

[kyblue]

Maybe "it's not bluegrass" is a nicer way of saying "it sucks" Ricky.

[jmcgann]

Maybe "it's not bluegrass" is a nicer way of saying "it sucks" Ricky.

# :

I did see a review in Bluegrass Unlimited one time, of an excellent old time album. The reviewer said "for my money, I'll take the hard drivin' sound of the bluegrass banjo over this any day!".

Whaddya gonna do

[sirmando]

People need to keep an open mind about music. Also he can say what every he is thinking this is a free country. I think he was just mad at them and had to vent.

[Timbofood]

This is getting silly, #it was said, it didn't really HURT anybody, it just shows that emotion can overdrive oral motor skills and his foot didn't get there first. #Can we just go on, maybe his next CD will not have anything on it but "Muleskinner Blues" 13 tracks. Would that make people happy? Ignorance can lie in the mouth of the speaker as much as the listener. #Didn't someone say:
"Better to keep you mouth shut and let people think you are stupid than to say someting and confirm it"

[GVD]

...Didn't someone say:
"Better to keep you mouth shut and let people think you are stupid than to say someting and confirm it"...

That someone would be Mark Twain and the quote actually goes like this:

"It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

While this definitely applies in Ricky's case I think the following paraphrased Twain quote might be even more apropos:

"Concerning the difference between Ricky and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass"

GVD

[Timbofood]

Thanks GVD! I knew it was a great social commentator, just could not remember. The "jack" addendum is another pearl!

[re simmers]

Unbelievable number of responses and views to picky ricky in such a short period of time. Ricky speaks, and he sure does like to speak, and people listen and respond. Scott, are there any stats on what has generated the most posts in such a short period of time?

[mandopete]

Scott, are there any stats on what has generated the most posts in such a short period of time?

Top Five would have to be....

5) What Is the Best Mandolin?

4) What Is Bluegrass?

3) Is Chris Thile the best mandolin player ever?

2) What do you think about Gibson?

1) Ricky Skaggs Said WhaT?

[cooper4205]

Pete-

You forgot the "What's the best string?" thread. It's gotta be up there somewhere

[mboucher]

...Didn't someone say:
"Better to keep you mouth shut and let people think you are stupid than to say someting and confirm it"...

That someone would be Mark Twain and the quote actually goes like this:

"It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

GVD

Actually, GVD it is from Proverbs, long before Mark Twain

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding

Mark

[mandolooter]

Hey, I've called 'em both ignorant before too...lol!

[Soupy1957]

I think:

"-What Pick do you prefer" should be in the top 5.

-Soupy1957

[Ivan Kelsall]

Reading the quote from Ricky Skaggs" ......it just show's their ignorance" - i think ingnorance in this instance can be taken as it's literal meaning of a ''failure to know''as per a ''failure to know of my billboard position for the last X # of weeks ''.
As for a few comments on music ''outside Bluegrass'',have any of you been listening to Bluegrassradio.org in recent months ?. Half the stuff they play these days seems to be 'outside Bluegrass',but the other half is great !,
saska

[Steve Davis]

To quote Duke Ellington: "If it sounds good it is good."

[K3NTUCKI8oy]

Bill Monroe is dead? Well I'll be...! We should all be so alive after we've died.

WOW! You made a great view point there! um....yea ok...

[K3NTUCKI8oy]

Ricky is in it for the money...

And Bill Monroe wasn't?

Mike don't question what I posted I'm sure you know
excactly what I meant.

[MikeEdgerton]

Ricky is in it for the money...

And Bill Monroe wasn't?

Mike don't question what I posted I'm sure you know
excactly what I meant.

Actually I didn't as the question was rhetorical. Thanks for writing.

[mandolong]

"If man were crossed with the cat it would improve the man.... #but diminish the cat"

MT