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    Quote Originally Posted by brunello97 View Post
    Pedro, I must have been truly tra veglia e sonno when I posted that Calzado mandolin last week. Sorry for that. Usually, I'll plug in the ebay listing.
    This was on ebay.fr and looks like it has ended.

    Some nice photos in the ad but no good view of the neck.

    Mick
    Thanx Mick, I was searching "Calzado" while the listing title says "Galzado"....no wonder I could not find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter K View Post
    Thanx Mick, I was searching "Calzado" while the listing title says "Galzado"....no wonder I could not find it.
    Yes, a typo from the seller, I guess. An interesting name. Calzado implying "footwear" in Spanish.
    A calzolaio is a shoemaker in "official" Italian. With Neapolitan all bets are off.
    #6980 (or whatever) implies that he made a few.
    Maybe they all wound up in France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunello97 View Post
    Yes, a typo from the seller, I guess. An interesting name. Calzado implying "footwear" in Spanish.
    A calzolaio is a shoemaker in "official" Italian. With Neapolitan all bets are off.
    #6980 (or whatever) implies that he made a few.
    Maybe they all wound up in France.

    Mick
    The typo could have been worse, if the seller wrote the luthier's name as "Cazzado", or hitting the genuine Neapolitan expression of bonhomie and affection with misspelling "Cazzato".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter K View Post
    The typo could have been worse, if the seller wrote the luthier's name as "Cazzado", or hitting the genuine Neapolitan expression of bonhomie and affection with misspelling "Cazzato".
    Now that's funny.

    My wife and I were visiting the lovely little town of Todi some years ago and being a fan of Greek-cross church plans I led us off in search of the local landmark.
    I asked a trio of nonnas where we might find the church of "Santa Maria della Colazione".
    They were weeping with laughter, but pointed us in the right direction.
    We enjoyed a light lunch afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunello97 View Post
    Now that's funny.

    My wife and I were visiting the lovely little town of Todi some years ago and being a fan of Greek-cross church plans I led us off in search of the local landmark.
    I asked a trio of nonnas where we might find the church of "Santa Maria della Colazione".
    They were weeping with laughter, but pointed us in the right direction.
    We enjoyed a light lunch afterwards.

    Mick
    That's a good one. There is much levity and mirth to be had with comparative linguistics, be it inadvertently or with design.

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    It's been a while since I've posted here... just finished off this Ceccherini, I think this one will stay with me for a while. Interestingly they all seem to be numbered in the 2000 and something range...

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    Lovely Ceccherini you got there but has anyone heard about the other Ceccherini
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    How interesting.... no I hadn't come across those before!

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    A mandolin by G. Ceccherini of Roma, definitely of the Roman style with similar neck and headstock to Embergher. The label is interesting. Seems to say that he is successor to Ducci and Associates and most of the label seems to tout that they sell pianos.

    The only other one of this maker I can fine was sold by Bonhams in 2009 and it the one in the middle of this lot of three mandolins. The description reads:

    A Mandolin Labelled G. Ceccherini E.C successori Ducci E Soci casa Succursale G 247 Via Nazionale 248 Roma Gran Deposito Di Piano Forti Di Fabbriche Nazionali..... with pear shaped back, with extended fingerboard over sound hole, and colourful decoration depicting a face with brass instruments and foliage, restorations
    A little further searching: I surmise that this is primarily a piano dealer (so was Ducci & Associates) and possibly this mandolin was made for this shop by one of the Roman makers.
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    247 Via Nazionale today. Or last August to be exact.
    Probably not a lot of people walking around there right now.

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    Interesting! The label lists agents in Germany, plus a London agent Collard and Collard, but the Internet seems to know them purely as piano dealers. So probably a pretty marginal mandolin operation. Nice instrument though, Cando, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavy View Post
    Interestingly they all seem to be numbered in the 2000 and something range...
    Right John. Mine is no. 2002, on the Italian language label. I thought we had had somewhere a thread on Ceccherini labels and numbers, but can't find it now.

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    Super cool Roman C. and Tavy's one is very nice, too, with fretboard extension, which is rare for a C. Is there a double top?

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    > Is there a double top?

    Yup.

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    This mandolin deserves to be be in this historic thread.

    In the classifieds now an Embergher N.5 and also on Reverb.

    I am a bit surprised that this is described as being restored. I am sure that the bowl is structurally sound now, but, sorry, I would not call it restored. It is quite possible that this was a real basket case in which case I would say the repairs were done the best as possible.

    I have a 1904 N3 which also had some pretty bad repairs (for instance, wood putty on the fluted bowl) done on it in its long life but I spend a fair amount of money on it and had it completely restored. I know a skilled luthier would charge a lot of money to get something like this like it was when it came from Luigi's shop, so I assume that the owner decided to opt for playabiity. Certainly understandable.
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    Fluted rosewood bowl Embergher. Very nice, Jim.

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