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    Minty Vinaccia on eBay

    Crazy asking price, but it sure is pretty...

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    That seller, leuterius, has quite a pile of bowlbacks and he is persistent on listing them over and over for pretty much the same price, tho occasionally he lowers it a bit once in a while. That is a beauty tho.

    He has a violin by Carlo Columbo Bruno from Torino (I have a Roman-style mandolin by that maker) that he has listed for $13,000.
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    The action looks impossibly low. It certainly is a stunning piece.

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    Lovely instrument, but not necessarily by Vinaccia. The fabric linings (or perhaps textured paper?) do not look like original Vinaccia's plus the label has been re-glued by the look of it, possibly during the restoration, but who knows?

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    You could be right, Victor. OTOH, with later Vinaccia like this one, I have seen all sorts of oddities. For instance, I have even seen some Roman style Vinaccias.
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    Yes, I remember that one. Also not 100% sure of it's originality though. This one could well be by Vinaccia, but a re-glued label will always cast the shadow of doubt, unfortunately.

    Here is another oddity from Russia, unlabelled. Has Vinaccian style tail buttons. But it will be a very bold speculation to suggest it is a Vinaccia, even though they made the ones with the oddly shaped soundholes at some stage. Likely to be either German or from Catania, I think.

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    Overpriced but certainly very pretty one on eBay UK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    You could be right, Victor. OTOH, with later Vinaccia like this one, I have seen all sorts of oddities. For instance, I have even seen some Roman style Vinaccias.
    What would you say about this one? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mandolin-P-....c100011.m1850

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    I just realised I had missed putting this late 1800’s copy of an early 1800’s Vinaccia mandoloncello in this thread for posterity.
    Apparently it went for €3000 at auction recently. The information I got was unclear as to whether this was by Vinaccia too or not.

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    The one by G. Monte, Napoli. When too much is too much...

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    What is seen cannot be un-seen. Alas.

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    It has been awhile posting to this thread. The seller of this 1963 Pecoraro 5bis mandolin bought it at an estate sale. It looks like it is in fine condition and would be excellent for a soloist who likes the Roman style. As usual, no financial interest on my part. I would consider it myself if I were especially flush, but I am not.
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    Nice instrument, James. Any thoughts on the asking price?

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    The listing says $4900, which I would think is an excellent price--"they" say these are every bit as good as those made by Embergher. Were it not for the fact that I bought a 2014 Hendrik van den Broek 5bis two years ago, I'd be all over this one.

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    Any idea what this old bowlback is? Unfortunately this is the only picture that I have. It is my neighbor’s in NY who says that it was her grandmothers.Click image for larger version. 

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    I got my grandfather's bowl back from my cousin last year. He gave up playing after going into the Navy in 1917. She did not know what it was but it was in its original case and had strings I put on it thirty years ago. It's a long story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Cohen View Post
    Any idea what this old bowlback is? Unfortunately this is the only picture that I have. It is my neighbor’s in NY who says that it was her grandmothers.Click image for larger version. 

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    Hey Dan:
    I think it is made by or for Lyon & Healy but probably one of the budget lines at best American Conservatory but likelier wholesaled out for retailers. Pickguard is very similar in shape to Washburns from that period, around 1912 or so.
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    Looks like someone picked up a very nice bargain on ebay(£124)
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    Nice one. I wonder, was JTL bringing in mandolins from Italy, or actually producing them in France? This one looks pretty distinct from the familiar Italian models that we're used to seeing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Clausen View Post
    Nice one. I wonder, was JTL bringing in mandolins from Italy, or actually producing them in France? This one looks pretty distinct from the familiar Italian models that we're used to seeing.
    The one JTL I've had pass through here was very distinctively "French" and not at all Neapolitan like. Very nice though! In any case I would say they were made in France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanzy View Post
    Looks like someone picked up a very nice bargain on ebay(£124)
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    Interesting, though. It looks like this same one was sold on eBay UK in September. Bought for £133. Then it must have been repaired. Look at the 4 small holes on either side of the end of the fretboard as well as two circular holes on the sides of the rosette/soundhole on the early auction. Those were all plugged up. So some work was done on it and the seller actually lost money (a few pounds) on the deal.

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    Still, it is a nice mandolin and the buyer got a good one. I wonder if we will see it up for auction another time soon.
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    Huh, looks like someone had a pickup installed on in in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic-victor View Post
    Huh, looks like someone had a pickup installed on in in the past.
    Quite possibly.
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    Interesting aluminium bowled mandolin on eBay at present, no makers name but the seller suspect German origins:

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