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    Thanks Jim, you know I think this piece might be stretchy for mandocello, but perhaps someone could work out the fingering, or possibly use 2 instruments or an alternate tuning. I'm pretty sure its notated somewhere, happy to share if interested, its a fairly new piece and is very much in its original form as when I first composed it, probably more than a year ago now. I really enjoyed the symposium in the clouds, particularly the Even Marshall stuff, he is a true master.
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    Very nice, but I was hoping to hear you sing it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Imhoff View Post
    Very nice, but I was hoping to hear you sing it!
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    more electric this time on the Eastwood MRG Electric Octave, finally getting around to exploring that box, I like it.

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    more electric this time on the Eastwood MRG Electric Octave, finally getting around to exploring that box, I like it.

    Excellent!!!

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    We’ll be have been back doing some gigs!
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    A medieval Spanish song
    Nice piece, well played - as usual. I'm a bit baffled, though, by the sheet music. It seems to be in Dm, but the key signature is in C.
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    Nice piece, well played - as usual. I'm a bit baffled, though, by the sheet music. It seems to be in Dm, but the key signature is in C.
    Thanks!
    I got the sheet music from Wikipedia (they have a few of the Cantigas on there) so it was either put together by someone who did it that way for whatever reason, or modern key signatures are not relevant for medieval modal music... who knows *shrug*.
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    I think you may be right about it being modal. I also think it may be something to do with notation. The B note would be flat in the key of Dm (or F), yet the transcriber put it in C to make the B note in Part B natural, then flatting it a bit later. I wonder whether it would have been wiser to make the key notation Dm (F) and then sharp that B note (ie, make it natural) when needed. I dunno; glad it's not my job.

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    who knows *shrug*
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    Here's an oldie but goodie... Thanks For The Listen!

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    Sound comparison of two ouds I built (spruce vs cedar) with a short piece by Mansour Nariman:



    Which is your favourite? Spruce or cedar?
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    medieval modal music... who knows *shrug*.
    Some of the people at Labyrinth Music Workshop based in Crete will know, or Labyrinth Online.

    If you haven't come across them already, check out the Spanish multi-instrumentalist Efren Lopez, or Italian Peppe Frana.

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    Here's my band Mystery Beans playing a couple songs at the Irie Bean open mic in Austin, TX. We play original country, folk, and bluegrass, plus some favorite covers! In this clip, we're playing Tom T. Hall's "How I Got To Memphis" and our original song "First Rodeo." Please enjoy! And if you do, you can find more of our tunes over on Instagram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusepo View Post
    Sound comparison of two ouds I built (spruce vs cedar) with a short piece by Mansour Nariman:



    Which is your favourite? Spruce or cedar?
    There's a huge difference. The first, with the spruce soundboard, sounds soft and mushy, compared to the second, with the cedar soundboard, which projects much better and has a strong and focused sound.

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    Here’s a video I made for the virtual 2020 Florida Fiddlers Convention. I’m playing an original tune, “Snake In the Henhouse.” Hope everyone enjoys it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by snakehead_a2z View Post
    Here’s a video I made for the virtual 2020 Florida Fiddlers Convention. I’m playing an original tune, “Snake In the Henhouse.” Hope everyone enjoys it.


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    Nice is that a Rigel you're playing there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusepo View Post
    Sound comparison of two ouds I built (spruce vs cedar) with a short piece by Mansour Nariman:

    Which is your favourite? Spruce or cedar?
    I too liked the cedar better, and felt that it had a fuller, richer sound, although I quite liked the spruce before I heard the cedar. That's the opinion of an old hard-of-hearing guy who hasn't yet put his hearing aids in, for what that's worth. (Your studio should be moth-free after shaving all that cedar.)
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    Here's a clip of our band The Knob Creek Incident

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    "Pishdaramad-e Bayat-e Tork" پیشدرامد بیات ترک by Abolhasan Saba

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    Great sound, Jo, and so good to hear you playing a longer piece which showcases both the instrument and the playing.
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    I am curious about the "Western" sound of this composer born and trained (on violin) in Iran. The scalar passages and sequences could be from a German baroque composer. Is this fusion effect typical of his music, just this particular piece, or is it an effect of modern times with radio (early 1900's) and other media connections spreading stylistic tendencies to previously localized and indigenous music? So often I hear people say "Their music sounds just like ours" without awareness of the influences of colonialism and universal media. In my field of choral music there is a tendency to emphasize so-called "universals" that are really the result of European and American cultural influences (if not outright colonialism).
    Many of your recorded selections have a clearly Middle Eastern sound, which is why this piece struck me as unusually Western.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Imhoff View Post
    I am curious about the "Western" sound of this composer born and trained (on violin) in Iran. The scalar passages and sequences could be from a German baroque composer. Is this fusion effect typical of his music, just this particular piece, or is it an effect of modern times with radio (early 1900's) and other media connections spreading stylistic tendencies to previously localized and indigenous music? So often I hear people say "Their music sounds just like ours" without awareness of the influences of colonialism and universal media. In my field of choral music there is a tendency to emphasize so-called "universals" that are really the result of European and American cultural influences (if not outright colonialism).
    Many of your recorded selections have a clearly Middle Eastern sound, which is why this piece struck me as unusually Western.

    p.s. Looking forward to my 2022 Christmas present, your 5 course cittern/mandocello!
    I don't really think I'm qualified to answer this question, and you'd probably get a better answer from an Iranian, but here's some analysis which may help...

    The Western 'major' mode is actually used throughout the world. In Persian music it's known as Dastgah-e Mahur (though it develops in a different way) and in Arabic music it's known as Maqam Ajam, and many other cultures also have something similar. This piece is in a mode called Avaz-e Bayat-e Tork, which does have some similarities to major, but features a quarter tone (called koron and notated with a square p-like symbol), which gives it a different quality. There is also a section halfway through the piece which has a second quarter tone, before switching back towards the end.

    The tonic (Or to be specific the 'shahed' which is slightly different) here is F, and so Bayat-e Tork here is F, G, A, Bb, C, D E koron. In that short alternating section, the A is flattened to A koron, and in the higher octave the E koron is flattened to Eb sometimes.

    The Dastgah (or more accuractely sub-Dastgah of Shur, hence Avaz) of Bayat-e Tork dates back to at least the 19th century, when the radif was composed, and probably is much older than that. The radif is a collection of non-rhythmic melodies which are used as a basis for composition and improvisation. It may originate from medieval Persia or the Sassanid Empire, since many of the melodies in the radif do.. Since Bayat-e Tork was previously also known as Bayat-e Zand, some theorise it comes from the time of the Zand Dynasty (1751–1794).

    As for the violin, that was introduced into Iran in the 18th or 19th century from France (Iran had good relations with France at this time and Farsi also got a lot of loanwords from French during this time).

    So, whilst there may be some western influence, how much is difficult to say. In case it's helpful, here's the sheet music:
    (although this piece was probably originally written for violin, this sheet music is for tar and setar, so sadly it's not immediately transferrable to mandolin, or even to oud, so I did transpose some bits into a higher octave)


    And here's a zarbi version (slightly different to the pishdaramad version I played but same melody) played by Iranian musicians for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fVSFoQZxcE

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    I think your answer demonstrates that you are quite qualified. I am vaguely familiar with some Middle Eastern and Indian-karnatic scales and their differences from Major-minor. But not to the level you have explained here; thank you.
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    This is Frankie Rodgers Ookpik Waltz. Thanks for the Listen!

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