Loar Picture of the Day

**danb** · Aug-22-2006, 1:57am

It played in itunes, and also my nokia phone software plays it..

**GTison** · Aug-22-2006, 10:43am

Charlie Derrington I believe told me that too the only time I met and talked to him. We were talking about Gibson's plans for the Monroe Model. And he mentioned how Monroe's was "tuned" or was resonant (or whatever ) to E. He also mentioned that it was unusual for that to be so. (I thought most were resonant at Eb not D).

**danb** · Aug-22-2006, 11:03am

The significance of the tap-note may not extend beyond being used as a guideline during carving.. From talking to a builder friend, carving to a tap pitch every time will result in inconsistent mandolins because the resonant note of the top has little to do with the final sound/response

**Chris Baird** · Aug-22-2006, 11:10am

What is being talked about is the resonance of the internal air volume coupled with a body mode. #It is sometimes referred to as the Helmholtz/A0/0,0 resonance. It does have a significant effect on the tone of the instrument but it is more a factor of design than tuning as that mode is very hard to change. The main reason for a higher than normal 0,0 mode would likely be a narrower rim depth. #That is to say that the internal air volume is less than normal. #I've only measured one Loar and it was at 311 hz, D#/Eb.

**Darryl Wolfe** · Aug-22-2006, 11:20am

I cannot speak to any technical details on the subject, but I can say that of all the Loars I've seen, heard and played. #Monroes and the first one 70281 are absolutely different than all others is some fashion. #Some come close, some sound the same over a PA, but none have the same woompf in person.

**Chris Baird** · Aug-22-2006, 11:51am

Darryl, Can you elaborate on the "woompf"?

**Darryl Wolfe** · Aug-22-2006, 2:10pm

Originally Posted by (Mandoplyr @ Aug. 22 2006, 12:51)

Darryl, Can you elaborate on the "woompf"?

The loose Monroe sound, where the whole instrument seems to breath, particularly in "C". Like comparing a '37 Herringbone to a really good later one

**Darryl Wolfe** · Aug-24-2006, 11:33am

Nice Loar signed L5 guitar available at Lowell Levingers site. Link and pic below

L5

**Darryl Wolfe** · Aug-24-2006, 11:36am

It is quite rare to see maple used. Most are flamed birch

**tree** · Aug-24-2006, 1:07pm

That is just dead sexy . . .

**Darryl Wolfe** · Aug-24-2006, 1:48pm

The bridge appears to be crafted by Monteleone. The remainder of the parts, including the pickguard appear original to me.

**f5joe** · Aug-24-2006, 5:23pm

That back color is the best!

**tree** · Aug-25-2006, 3:10pm

The color, the shape, the finish . . . I'm in love!

**Darryl Wolfe** · Aug-28-2006, 9:23am

A 1922 Gibson brochure and Price list recently sold on eb**. The seller was kind enough to answer my question as to whether the pricelist contained the F-5. The pricelist dated August 1922 DID include the F-5. The brochure did not.

So, this Aug 1922 pricelist is the earliest mention of the F-5 that we have found to date. Prior to that it was May 1923 pricelist, the late 1923 Catalog N and the undated presumably early 1923 F-5 mandolin tri-fold brochure.

**Darryl Wolfe** · Sep-12-2006, 1:58pm

Here are some detail shots. #73992 of course

**Darryl Wolfe** · Sep-12-2006, 1:59pm

hopefully I have captured something we do not normally see

**Darryl Wolfe** · Sep-12-2006, 2:02pm

Dusty Miller

**Darryl Wolfe** · Sep-12-2006, 2:04pm

Button (distressed)

**Darryl Wolfe** · Sep-12-2006, 2:05pm

woops, I need a 1/4" wrench

**Darryl Wolfe** · Sep-12-2006, 2:06pm

Now this is "scroll"

**Darryl Wolfe** · Sep-12-2006, 2:08pm

Not too much finish left from the nut to the fifth fret

**Darryl Wolfe** · Sep-12-2006, 2:09pm

almost an optical delusion

**Darryl Wolfe** · Sep-12-2006, 2:10pm

lighting is making the sunburst look off-center. It's not

**ronlane3** · Sep-12-2006, 2:11pm

Darryl, those are great thanks for sharing. Now for the stupid question, "hopefully I have captured something we do not normally see", what do you mean??