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    Iím now in a duet with a great Banjo/Guitar player. We play a lot of aggressive fiddle and bluegrass tunes. Iíve been having problems keeping the pick in place. It tends to rotate towards my palm as I play. I manage to straighten it out when I move to back-up, but once I play lead it slowly rotates. I use a blue chip ct-55 on my mandolin and a Fender heavy gauge on my guitar. I have the problem with both.
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    I've had this problem ever since my fingers started getting arthritic. I've found that just a little bit of saliva on my thumb and first finger really keeps the pick from moving around.
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    Or a little violin rosin on your fingers
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    Does it get better with time and practice and patience? Yes. Your brain helps your fingers/hands/muscles/skeleton compensate. Does it get worse with age? Yes. My pick spins. I drop my pick. I keep spares handy onstage. I strum with my fingers when necessary. The show must go on. Keep on picking!
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    Cut some grooves in the pick with an X-acto knife. A waffle pattern is good. Watch your fingers.

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    Iím tempted to superglue the damn pick to my fingers!
    Has anyone tried a drop of caulk in the middle of the pick?
    Iíve tried cutting a grid in the middle, but that didnít help much.

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    Have you tried a Wegen pick with either the indentation or the holes in the pick? That may help address your problem.
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    Two other solutions:

    Drill a 3/16" hole in the pick. You have to find the right spot, though.
    -or-
    Super glue saome 320 or 400 sandpaper to the pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcc56 View Post
    Cut some grooves in the pick with an X-acto knife. A waffle pattern is good. Watch your fingers.
    How does watching your fingers help?…!
    Just joking, I knew you meant don’t cut your fingers
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    Casin picks have some inherent tackiness, especially after exposure to some sweat or a little saliva.
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    Another potential issue could been grip shape or technique. If you hold the pick with fingers pinching at the tips, you might not have enough surface area for grip traction.
    The rounded index finger (closed fist) shape has lots of grip area.
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    Iím getting some good ideas here! I like the sandpaper idea.
    I keep my index finger curled on the bottom of the pic, and the flat of my thumb on top.
    I believe this is the standard grip. Both the fender heavy pic and the blue chip have the same problem so I donít think itís the material.
    Thanks for all the tips! More are welcome!

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    I had this problem until I bought a Blue Chip TD-40. It is smooth for tremolo but stays in place in your fingers................amazing!
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    I use Monster Grips, which are ultra-thin, sticky plastic wafers that you attach to one side (or both sides) of a pick. When I first started playing guitar, I couldn't hold on to a pick to save my life, so I used one on each side. Nowadays, I just use one, usually on the thumb-side of the pick.

    They allow me to use whatever pick I choose, without worrying about how easy or hard it is to hold on to...

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    I know this seems counterintuitive but loosen your grip. The more you squeeze, the more it spins, the more is spins, the more you squeeze. Also, wash your hands and your pick often. I've tried adding texture, cutting grooves, drilling holes, rosin, gorilla snot etc.. and, as is often the case, the issue was my technique not the equipment. As for sticky substances, I am not a fan. It takes no time for the substance to end up on my fretting hand and then on the strings and fretboard. Sticky strings and finger tips are the worst.

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    I second what Ky said. My fingers are super sticky, which is good for the pick but bad for the fingerboard. So I have to scrub my hands often, keeping a rough towel handy for in between. Your grip should be so loose that the pick can be easily pulled out. Hold as loose as possible, and adjust as often as needed. We have so much feeling in those finger tips, use it. Use it for control, for expression, and it will loosen everything else as a bonus. I also use the ct55 and it sticks for me better than most. My grip is so light that if I hang my hand without thinking about it, it will hit the floor. Good luck!

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    There is a product called Gorilla Snot, really, that works.

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    Yeah, I've noticed this happening from time to time. My solution is to rotate it back into place.

    By the way, in the southern hemisphere it rotates in the other direction.
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    +1 for Wegen trimus picks. the big (huge!) indentation prevents pick from sliding away, the big (huge!) grooves prevent any rotation. well worth the money. https://www.wegenpicks.com/images/trimus250.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ky Slim View Post
    I know this seems counterintuitive but loosen your grip. The more you squeeze, the more it spins, the more is spins, the more you squeeze. Also, wash your hands and your pick often. I've tried adding texture, cutting grooves, drilling holes, rosin, gorilla snot etc.. and, as is often the case, the issue was my technique not the equipment. As for sticky substances, I am not a fan. It takes no time for the substance to end up on my fretting hand and then on the strings and fretboard. Sticky strings and finger tips are the worst.
    This has been my solution. As counter-intuitive as it seems, the loose grip seems (for me) to keep the pick from rotating.
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    Simplest solution first: If you have been using that pick for a while, try washing it with warm soapy water. Back when I used BCs that made them feel like new again and helped with grip.
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    Silly as this may sound, my Mando teacher recommends a small piece of double-sided tape...Just sayin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twistofer56 View Post
    Silly as this may sound, my Mando teacher recommends a small piece of double-sided tape...Just sayin'
    Works for Evan Marshall.
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    I thought it was just me.

    I've even tried double-sided tape. I'm currently looking for a stipled pick. It works on Glocks. Maybe picks, too?
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