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    Default Irish or Italian? Does pick direction matter?

    Here’s an Italian tune played a bit differently in different parts of Italy.
    I’ve included notation and TAB to show various pick direction options.

    So, what do you think? Is staccato down-picking the real McCoy?

    Notation:
    https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/a...7&d=1658168760

    Pick direction TAB:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/a0e8of3cg7...21%20.pdf?dl=0
    X:1
    T: Quadriglia Amblas! (Irish/Italian pick pattern version)
    L: 1/8
    C:1st. Mandolino
    C:arr. L.Canoro
    M:6/8
    K: D
    |vf/2uf/2 vfugv^g|: va2vf/2uf/2 vfuevd|vA2vf/2uf/2 vfuevd|vc2uc vB2uB|A2f/2f/2 fg^g|a2f fed|A2f/2f/2 fed|cBA GFE|1D2f/2f/2 fg^g:|2D2d/2d/2 ded||
    |:c2dB2c|A2d ded|c2dB2c|A2f fg^g|a2f fed|A2f fed|cBA GFE|1D2d ded:|2D2f fg^g||
    |a2f fed|A2f fed|c2c B2B|A2f fg^g|a2ffed|A2f fed|cBA GFE|D2B B=c^c|
    [K:G]|:vd3/2uB/2z vBucv^c|d3/2B/2 z gag|fgf efe|d2B Bc^c| d3/2B/2 z Bc^c|d3/2B/2 zgag|fed cBA|1G2B Bc^c:|"G"2 [G,DGB]
    T:Example if all notes were played
    T:in first bar of C part ('Irish' picking pattern)
    |:vd/2ud/2vd/2uB/2z/2z/2 vBucv^c:|
    T:Example of picking pattern on (Italian) recording https://youtu.be/LXHjx_xR9qs
    |:vd/2ud/2vd/2uB/2z/2z/2 vBvcv^c:|
    |:vA2vf vfvevd|vcvBvA vGvFvE:|


    https://youtu.be/LXHjx_xR9qs

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    Default Re: Irish or Italian? Does pick direction matter?

    Cool tune thanks

    I don't know right from wrong, but for what it's worth I would slide the g - g# and alternate pick the run down.
    - Jeremy

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    Default Re: Irish or Italian? Does pick direction matter?

    Thanks, with the first measure:
    |vf/2uf/2 vfugv^g|a
    I’d try to keep the first two notes separate from the following three notes.
    That is, I’d slide from the second f to the g in order to keep that group separation.

    OR, I’ll play guitar style for the first measure by using the pinkie on the first a of the second measure, and then go back to standard mando fingering.

    It’s all personal preference but I wouldn’t alternate the run-down because then I have to use conscious thinking for rhythm, meaning:
    '…end of a five note string…am I at the end of the measure?… do I start the next with a down or upstroke?'
    For me this causes a slight hiccup in focus and results in a slight rhythm change -a rhythm change that isn’t intended.

    I guess if you have good control of beat emphasis no matter if it’s an upbeat or downbeat then no problem.

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