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    Default Secure Endpin?

    My endpin is just a tapered pin held in by friction. I've had it pop out a couple of times. Have any of you added a drop or two of glue to secure it better, or is there another preferred method? Thanks for any info.

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    If you glue it, you may not be able to get your tailpiece off, if need be.
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    It's an unfortunate issue but there are literally dozens of answers as to what to do and they will all be posted over the next few days.

    My favorite is what I call the Hans Brentrup method as Hans was the first I recall seeing posting it as an answer.
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    I had the same problem and solved it by putting a thin layer of superglue on the end pin all around the shaft. Let it dry thoroughly and then put it in place and see if it holds. DO NOT GLUE IT INTO ENDPIN HOLE.
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    Try this - Original Peg Drops by Ardsley

    If the endpin is loose or falling out, check your humidity levels; the end block may be drying out.
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    Repeat: Do not glue it in...

    A friend with an older mandolin had an endpin that was glued in place and he had to ream it out and replace it with a viola endpin in order to replace the tailpiece.
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    One drop of clear fingernail polish. It will break loose later if needed.

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    Chewing gum. Never fails.

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    I had this happen on my SA Econo, which I bought from a guy in a much drier climate than me (and, of course, shipping) the first time I played it. Freaked me out, too. Based on a desire to avoid anything more permanent after researching the Cafe, I opted for a single wrap of masking tape to the end pin, which snugged it up nicely (painterís tape would likely work as well). Only wrap enough so that itís all hidden in the end block. May have been unnecessary if Iíd given it time to humidify for a couple days, but I was impatient and wanted to play! Hansí advice is a great fail safe as well. Fwiw, mine never popped out again.

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    Glue it in! That’s what Collings do. .... Oh how I wish I could remove the endpin from my Collings Mandola!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray(T) View Post
    Glue it in! That’s what Collings do. .... Oh how I wish I could remove the endpin from my Collings Mandola!
    I'm not trying to be rude when I say please don't take this advice. Unless I'm dense and missed the sarcasm meant in the first 3 words.

    I would also advise a single wrap of tape on the endpin.
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    There is an adhesive that I use for many things that may need to come back apart again. E6000. Comes in a tube. Most larger hardware stores carry it. Dries clear and remains very pliable and fairly easy to cut. Dries to hold within a couple hours. Then gets stronger for the next day. Holds pretty much anything to anything. Can be rubbed off by friction/rubbing if needed. Amazing stuff. Just a slight dab on an endpin would do. That said, I would still probably use a touch of the traditional fingernail polish.

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    Collings Endpin thread.

    This message contains a picture of how Weber did it for a while as well. You could assemble that at a decent hardware store.
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    I slightly enlarged the diameter of an undependable guitar endpin by doing what discullin suggested in Post #4, only with Duco Cement. Let it dry thoroughly overnight, then snugged it back in. So far so good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccravens View Post
    I'm not trying to be rude when I say please don't take this advice. Unless I'm dense and missed the sarcasm meant in the first 3 words.

    I would also advise a single wrap of tape on the endpin.
    No offence taken; I was being sarcastic but if it does come loose, at least you have options. If its been out a time or two, both the pin and the hole may have smoothed off and the first thing Iíd try is roughening the pin up slightly with sandpaper.

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    Question Re: Secure Endpin?

    A FAQ Resurfaces again, from a freshly signed on player ..

    A Tapered piece of wood, .. say More of what the end block is made from,
    rather than the ebony end button ones that are violin derived *,
    that glued in, then cut off flush .. .

    While tail piece is off, ..

    & then that piece drilled and a screw in button installed..
    .. you can get one of the pretty ones Stew Mac offers.

    should definitely be a solid cure,..


    * there is a pencil sharpener-like tool to make those tapers from violin making suppliers ..


    I recently Had my F type Lebeda 'Jazzica' Refretted ..
    It had an in-bridge pickup , unique to the Czech builder's sources, that went DNF ..

    Already have another Pickup fitted Mandolin (& a Schertler Stick on),
    so I just had the end-pin-jack hole plugged as described,
    Though that hole is not *tapered ..

    and a regular screwed in button installed over the typical felt washer ..

    I May get one of Stew Mac's Pretty ones at some future date.. but it, as is, works fine..

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    For screw-ins, I like the Schaller strap-lock ones. You can get them from StewMac in chrome, nikel, black or gold.

    I should add that you don’t have to buy the bit of the strap-lock that attaches to the strap and they’re slightly smaller than “normal” strap buttons. I think they’re intended for people with several guitars but can only afford one strap!
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    In the past I have put a small piece of painters tape on the peg and pushed it back in. You canít wrap the peg with it, it wonít fit after that. Just a small piece, and you may have to experiment with the size. This is kind of a temp fix but Iíve used it for years on sone mandolins and guitars.

    Another trick is to use a sharp knife or razor blade to slice the end pin. You donít remove any material, you just slice it. Itís hard to describe, but it works. Iíve used that method also. I would try the painters tape first.
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    Surprised I didn't see it mentioned yet, but I've used that white "teflon" tape - just once around stretched tight is usually enough. (You'll find in the plumbing supply aisle at any hardware/home improvement store, i.e., if you don't already have some rolling around in a toolbox somewhere.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by moxie View Post
    One drop of clear fingernail polish. It will break loose later if needed.
    That's worked well for me. ==> But let it dry overnight BEFORE inserting! <==
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    I wrapped a layer or so of hockey stick tape around my end pin and it stayed perfectly snug for the 2 more years that I played that particular mandolin.

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    To everyone that replied. . .Thanks for all of the info! A lot of great ideas.

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