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    Default Old F-Case Repair. Handle?

    I'm about to start restoring an early 20s F-Case. Among a myriad of things, it's missing a handle.

    Does someone do a replacement?

    Thanks,
    Bazz.

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    Default Re: Old F-Case Repair. Handle?

    One of our Cafe folks Mark Lynch had a connection for some really nice handle's! They were leather and high quality! He may chime in. I think he sold out but wanted more but alas the price like everything went way up!

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    Post a picture of the case. There are a few ways to go including finding a donor case, suit case or otherwise, that is period correct.
    "Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them". These are the words of J. Garber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    Post a picture of the case. There are a few ways to go including finding a donor case, suit case or otherwise, that is period correct.
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    Wow. That looks like an ambitious undertaking!
    Can't wait to watch your progress on it, though.
    Last edited by Sue Rieter; Oct-14-2021 at 4:32pm.

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    No guesses about NZ, but old suitcases should be thrift shop items, especially since they’re favored by decorators and photographers as background items. You probably are aiming for ‘as new’ restoration, but if you want to keep some atmosphere, I’d keep the mouse hole at the tip, maybe backing it on the inside. If that was a mouse or some interesting local other critter.
    There was a thread here maybe a year ago about handles, and how to fasten ones with D-ring attachments, and mention of the saddlery folks who can fabricate or cover that type. Even a shoe repair shop, if they still exist. For the funky unrestored and much used vibe, a handle can be spiral wrapped with what’s called ‘friction tape’ that I’m guessing is a worldwide thing. There’s also been quite a bit of discussion about what linings and glues are destructive of finishes, so you do have to be careful with the interior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard500 View Post
    No guesses about NZ, but old suitcases should be thrift shop items, especially since they’re favored by decorators and photographers as background items. You probably are aiming for ‘as new’ restoration, but if you want to keep some atmosphere, I’d keep the mouse hole at the tip, maybe backing it on the inside. If that was a mouse or some interesting local other critter.
    There was a thread here maybe a year ago about handles, and how to fasten ones with D-ring attachments, and mention of the saddlery folks who can fabricate or cover that type. Even a shoe repair shop, if they still exist. For the funky unrestored and much used vibe, a handle can be spiral wrapped with what’s called ‘friction tape’ that I’m guessing is a worldwide thing. There’s also been quite a bit of discussion about what linings and glues are destructive of finishes, so you do have to be careful with the interior.
    Thanks, good tips. Definitely not aiming for "as-new". It's period correct for my '21 F4 which is in good player condition. I'd really like it to be a functional sturdy case that looks 100 years old

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    Cafe member LoudLoar (Steve Kirtley)has a website devoted to vintage cases with history and some repair information. It's here. If you are on Facebook he also has a Vintage Case Facebook Group. The Case Repair section of the website is here. This search contains many threads on finding replacement handles for these cases. I have purchased them off eBay on occasion as well as finding old violin cases and such as donors.

    This vintage violin case is currently on eBay for $49.00 with free shipping. That handle would be similar to what you're looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    Cafe member LoudLoar (Steve Kirtley)has a website devoted to vintage cases with history and some repair information. It's here. If you are on Facebook he also has a Vintage Case Facebook Group. The Case Repair section of the website is here. This search contains many threads on finding replacement handles for these cases. I have purchased them off eBay on occasion as well as finding old violin cases and such as donors.

    This vintage violin case is currently on eBay for $49.00 with free shipping. That handle would be similar to what you're looking for.
    Thanks Mike. I'm in New Zealand, so I'm limited to what turns up locally. It's good to know what to look out for though. Thanks!

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    Check out junk shops and second hand stores. I would be surprised if some of these type handles didn't make it to you in some form. Steve's site will give you some tips on repairing the other parts of the case.
    "Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them". These are the words of J. Garber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    Check out junk shops and second hand stores. I would be surprised if some of these type handles didn't make it to you in some form. Steve's site will give you some tips on repairing the other parts of the case.
    Thanks. I've posted there. Looks to be a great resource.

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    this may not be what you want, but Deering banjo company offers a leather replacement handle that has a leather(its real leather not vinyl or fake) buckle type fastening. they offer two kinds, one that buckles to the side and one that buckles horizontal-here's the info with pictures of both models. i replaced a handle on an older TKL with one of these and its actually semi circular and on the small side, i immediately thought, " this looks like a mandolin case handle". i'll take a picture of it later and post here.

    https://www.deeringbanjos.com/collec...hardshell-case
    the 4th picture is how my handle looks.

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    you might inquire with Steve at (super nice guy and has thousands of old parts-he might have something laying around)
    http://vintageparlorguitars.com/

    GryphonsInstruments has been around a long time and from what i've been told by one of the staff there, they have tons of old things, parts, pieces "upstairs". might be a long shot but worth an email-send you pics.
    https://www.gryphonstrings.com/pages/custsvc-contact-us


    Ritchie Dotson repairs guitar/mandolin/banjo and sells a lot of old style and actual old parts-worth an email
    https://acousticbox.com/

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    These will work: www.bernunzio.com/product/case-handle-2/
    $16.95 US
    I recommend that you order 2 of them, they are harder to find than they used to be.
    And since you're in NZ and shipping is expensive, you might give their website a really good looking over-- they have all kinds of parts and other stuff; maybe they have something else you need.
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