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    Hi guys ... does anyone know where I might find mandolin TAB for Richard Thompson's tune "Do It For My Sake", released on his 1981 album "Strict Tempo" please? Thanks in anticipation from a UK newbie.

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    That is one *great* tune I don't think I've ever seen mentioned in this space. Used to play it long ago with a friend. Need to go listen to it now. Thanks for bringing it up.


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    There's an ABC transcription at John Chambers' site. I attach the standard notation. If you need tab, you can import the ABC below into TablEdit or similar:

    X: 1
    T:Do It For My Sake
    M:3/4
    L:1/8
    Q:120
    S:Hudson MS
    N:From Paul de Grae
    D:Richard Thompson, "Strict Tempo", Hannibal HNCD 440
    K:D
    F^A|: B2 c2 d2|d2 c2 AF|F2 d2 dc|B4 AB|d2 d2 BA|
    B2 B2 AG|F2 AF ED|B,>C DEFG|E2 DD3-|1 D4 F^A:|2 D4 B,C|
    |: DE FG A2|G2 F>E F^A|B>d c>B A>F|A4 (3ABd|e2 e2 de|
    f2 f2 ed|B2 B2 dB|A2 A2 GF|E D D3-|1 D4 B,C:|2 D4 F^A ||

    I agree with Scott: this is a great tune, and good fun on mandolin! I recorded a fairly basic version on electric mandolin back in 2010 -- reminds me that I should get the electric out again, as I haven't touched it in years!



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    Many thanks Martin ... I'll look this up
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    Default Re: Richard Thompson Mandolin TAB

    With tab
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Do_It_For_My_Sake.pdf  

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    Now if we can get a version in TablEdit we'll be in business.

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    Thanks mandoalaska ... this is exactly what I was looking for!!
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    By chance, Richard Thompson was interviewed on CBC today:

    https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio...s-story-memoir
    Robert Johnson's mother, describing blues musicians:
    "I never did have no trouble with him until he got big enough to be round with bigger boys and off from home. Then he used to follow all these harp blowers, mandoleen (sic) and guitar players."
    Lomax, Alan, The Land where The Blues Began, NY: Pantheon, 1993, p.14.

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    A wonderful and honest interview with one of my all time favourites. Many thanks for sending the link Ranald. I'm off to order a copy of Beeswing now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Jonas View Post
    There's an ABC transcription at John Chambers' site. I attach the standard notation.

    Quote Originally Posted by mandoalaska View Post
    With tab

    In both of those, in the third bar from the end, there's only two and a half beats. I think it's a transcription error/typo. Magnified views:

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    After a casual listening to the video, it sounds to me like 3 beats there, not 2-and-a-half beats. Although I could be wrong, as I have not done a careful half-speed analysis of the video's audio track.

    Of course an experienced notation-reader will likely automatically adjust any written notation on-the-fly to match what they think the tune should be, without even really noticing or thinking about it too much.

    I only mention it on the off chance that someone might try to play it exactly as written, and end up confused as to where that missing 8th-note went to. I can picture someone like my late dad (who in his later years learned to read tab, albeit very slowly) struggling with the errant bar and trying to play it exactly as written and wondering why the rhythm got weird.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JL277z View Post
    In both of those, in the third bar from the end, there's only two and a half beats. I think it's a transcription error/typo. Magnified views:

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    After a casual listening to the video, it sounds to me like 3 beats there, not 2-and-a-half beats. Although I could be wrong, as I have not done a careful half-speed analysis of the video's audio track.
    Yes, it clearly is a transcription error. I think the intention is that the rhythm in that bar is the same as in the equivalent bar in the A part, in which case the first of those two eighth notes should be a quarter. Listening back to my own 2010 recording, I think I just sustained the final D for the remainder of the bar to stay in rhythm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Jonas View Post
    Yes, it clearly is a transcription error. I think the intention is that the rhythm in that bar is the same as in the equivalent bar in the A part, in which case the first of those two eighth notes should be a quarter. Listening back to my own 2010 recording, I think I just sustained the final D for the remainder of the bar to stay in rhythm.
    That makes sense, thanks!

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    I was just looking at the transcription you posted above, Martin, and notice that the last bar for some reason includes the F# and A# quavers which appear before the first bar as an anacrusis. Surely the melody ends on the minim and the final two quavers should be omitted?
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    Intriguing tune. I've been exploring his (much) earlier work with Fairport Convention for the last couple of months, but not listened to much of his more recent work since the mid-to-late 1990s. It was my great fortune to meet him at a festival, however briefly. This would have been the time his album "Mock Tudor" was current.

    As to this: I'll admit to being no expert on Celtic traditions, but isn't it customary for a two-part tune to be played in this fashion - AABB - and then the whole thing repeated again, and then end? The reason I'm asking is the second time around he plays the A part only once. I suppose the custom I mentioned is just that, and not a hard and fast rule. It just made me wonder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kelly View Post
    I was just looking at the transcription you posted above, Martin, and notice that the last bar for some reason includes the F# and A# quavers which appear before the first bar as an anacrusis. Surely the melody ends on the minim and the final two quavers should be omitted?
    A lot of these ABC transcriptions found online have issues, including this one. At least, here it is fairly obvious how to correct the score for the misplaced anacrusis as well as for the missing quaver identified by JL277z.

    Now that I've been reminded of this lovely tune, I've been trying it out on the mandocello for the last couple of days. It's fun!

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    Good old Eric Morcambe ... my style of playing exactly!
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