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    Good news for those of us in the US. The Art of the Mandolin has officially entered into the public domain. Itís a great book so Iím hoping to see some copies legally spread around now.
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    It's available and downloadable from IMSLP: https://imslp.org/wiki/L%27Art_de_la...eri%2C_Silvio)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelhai View Post
    It's available and downloadable from IMSLP: https://imslp.org/wiki/L%27Art_de_la...eri%2C_Silvio)
    Yeah. Part 2 (3,4) have been on there a while. Itís tougher to find part 1 (1,2). Hopefully we can get it added to IMSLP.
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    of both, they were not discontented with each other. -- Segovia

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    Maybe I am a bit confused here but how do you know it is in public domain? I have the Cranz editions and book 1 is copyrighted 1956, book 2 1959.
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    As I understand it, the original books 1 & 2 were first published in 1925. Those 1925 editions are out of copyright and maybe reproduced at will. Though the editions published in 1956 and 1959 seem to be mere reproductions of the original editions, they have been edited (see Ralf Leenen, https://youtu.be/AqMcD0T7a8I) and therefore are not out of copyright and may not be reproduced at will.

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    The copyright is sometimes complicated. Here in Germany it is 70 years after the death of the composer and we will have to wait for some more years until 2030 for the Ranieri methods.
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    imslp.org appears to be in international waters. Volumes 3 and 4 of Ranieri have the clarification of copyright in Europe and the United States, and although the copyright is active in Canada, the site where the site is hosted, they are still available on the site, and so far there are no complainants ...
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    IMSLP does always check the copyright and tells about it. In the case of the Ranieri methods it says:

    It is very unlikely that this work is public domain in the EU, or in any country where the copyright term is life-plus-70 years. However, it is in the public domain in Canada (where IMSLP is hosted) and other countries where the term is life-plus-50 years (such as China, Japan, Korea and many others worldwide). As this work was first published before 1926 or failed to meet notice or renewal requirements to secure statutory copyright with no "restoration" under the GATT amendments, it is very likely to be public domain in the USA as well.

    I ask everybody to obey the copyright laws. IMSLP would not exits if the coyright laws are not obeyed.

    There is enough work to do with works that are really public domain in most contries, at the moment I am working to scan sheet music by Theodor Ritter (died 1950, public domain now). It is not urgently necessary to scan works that are not public domain in most countries...
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    I ask everybody to obey the copyright laws.
    It is not urgently necessary to scan works that are not public domain in most countries.
    On an international stage (is there any other in 2021?) what are the ethics involved for say, United States-ers observing US copyright laws for a publication originating in France, India, Russia, Japan? There is no internationally shared copyright standard, correct? Is there any international standard for what the US terms "Fair Use"? I have lots of questions like this ... but am not willing to put in the time to become a copyright lawyer. Really, I think Mando Cafe should have one on call ...

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