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    The LiuQin is the closest Chinese instrument to the mandolin. I think one of the tunings they use is GDAE. I wonder if anyone has bought one either from an importer in the US or directly from China and if there are some that are decent playable instruments. I don't think I need a professional model like the one this player in the video plays but a decent one to fool around with. It looks and sounds like they bend the strings down toward the fretboard. I just want to try one for old time music.

    I was going to post this in one of the regional forums but there are none for Asian instruments or music. I thought there was a general World Music forum but I guess i just dreamt it. This piece seems to be the "Orange Blossom Special" of liuqin music. Lots of YouTube videos of "The Garder After Rain."



    This sounds more like bluegrass to me (music starts at 47 seconds):

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    David: do you actually own one of those Liuqins you linked to above?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    David: do you actually own one of those Liuqins you linked to above?
    No, I got a cheap Xinghai model a year or so ago off of Shopgoodwill.

    I have bought many other instruments from Red Music Shop and they have been a reliable source for Chinese musical items.

    I have other Xinhai brand instruments and they are decent quality. Mine is like that

    Of course the Shanghai Dunhuang model is a bit better, it even has fine tuners.

    https://www.redmusicshop.com/Other%2...0Liuqin%20lute

    The two pro models are Xinghai.

    Yes, this is the Chinese instrument most like a mandolin, moreso than the pipa or yueqin. The ruan is close but bigger.

    https://www.easonmusicstore.com/prod...ion-grades-7-8

    method book from Eason music, another reliable source.

    https://www.easonmusicstore.com/coll...-things-liuqin

    Picks, strings and mostly sold out of liuqin.

    Ebay has these lower price ones:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Liuqin-Chin...4AAOSwCtxfQB~H

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Liuqin-hard...oAAOSwX5pcuMGa

    I hope this helps.
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    I guess it is a guess to find out what one would be best to actually play music and is not a piece of junk. Would it be worthwhile to contact Red Music and do they have people there you can trust?

    How is your SGW liuqin? Is it playable? Di you play Chinese music on it or other genres?
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    Amazing. I'm waiting to come across an instrument that David doesn't play.

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    I traveled to China about 20 years ago and I kinda' fell in love with their music, their art and their culture.

    The er hu is my favorite Chinese instrument. It's one of those upright bowed instruments with only 2 strings. Sounds like a cross between a violin and an English horn. Mournful but beautiful.

    I was lucky enough to buy an er hu (which was a trip unto itself) and took my first lesson backstage at a place very much like in the first vid.

    Here's a picture of my er hu teacher, backstage after a show. She's adjusting my newly bought er hu. She was amused by the big, goofy foreigner that wanted to play Chinese music.
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    Yes, seduced by China. I wanna' go back.

    My apologies to the OP for hijacking his thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    I guess it is a guess to find out what one would be best to actually play music and is not a piece of junk. Would it be worthwhile to contact Red Music and do they have people there you can trust?

    How is your SGW liuqin? Is it playable? Di you play Chinese music on it or other genres?
    It works well enough - it's in tune and has decent action. I've seen better ones but for me it's fun to have. It's my 2nd liuqin, my first was an unbranded clunker.

    I do play Chinese music on my liuqin, but not the serious classical stuff, but shorter pieces and popular things I like, such as certain Cantonese and Shanghai tunes.

    I do not have a personal contact at Red Music but they should answer emails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunello97 View Post
    Amazing. I'm waiting to come across an instrument that David doesn't play.

    Mick
    I do not play (or play well enough to count) on stuff like but not limited to:

    Oboe...bassoon...brass instruments...a variety of 5 string banjo styles....fiddle....guitarron....pedal steel....classical piano...hurdy gurdy....accordion....bagpipes...didgeridoo...tabl as.....sitar....sarod...and so on.

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    I love traditional Chinese music and used to search for instruments (long before ebay). But I didn't live in the bay area and so I couldn't find any other than a yangqin. At the time I also played (American made) hammered dulcimer so I didn't do much with my yangqin - too busy with Irish/Scottish airs. I finally obtained a guzheng (through the cafe no less) several years ago and began studying TCM - the very old stuff.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 40bpm View Post
    My apologies to the OP for hijacking his thread.
    No apologies necessary. I specialize in my own form of hijacking but I call it taking a pleasant detour on another connected road or something like that.

    A friend of mine who plays a wide variety of world music instruments took up erhu and I do play fiddle but the erhu would require a little too much off-the-beaten track technique for me. I like Chinese music but the liuqin seems closer to mandolin technique and I would just want to fool with different timbre and the note bending and probably just play some American fiddle tunes or songs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    No apologies necessary. I specialize in my own form of hijacking ..... and probably just play some American fiddle tunes or songs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    liuqin seems closer to mandolin technique and I would just want to fool with different timbre and the note bending
    Not as much bending as pipa....yes, it is very close to mandolin technique compared to erhu or guzheng.

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    This thread is giving me pleasant flashbacks. Here's a pic from the place I bought my er hu:

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    I just found an older thread with a link for this meeting of John Reischman's group with some Chinese musicians playing "Katy Hill". John duets with liuqin player, then pipa, etc.

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    Here's a nice piece, evidently another "standard" in liuqin repertoire that reminds me of some of the classical mandolin solo pieces.

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