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    Default Can anyone identify this mandolin?

    It is described as a Gibson by H.Russell.
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    Default Re: Can anyone identify this mandolin?

    I dont know much. But it looks like the neck was changed , and it looks like A teens era A model Thats what I see. I could be wrong .
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    Has to be later, it has a truss rod and a stenciled headstock

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    I see the truss rod cover. I changed my guess of a A4 to just a A . The Sound hole rings are not there.

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    It looks like it might be somewhere near a 34-ish A-00 with a changed tailpiece, bridge and fretboard. Can't really tell from the small picture. I don't think much is original there and that bridge placement looks funky as well. It doesn't have the riser block, that takes it past the 20's and into 30's.
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    I would be interested to know if there is a screw hole in the top and side for a pickguard. If not, then the body may be from an oval hole A-00 and with a new fingerboard added as Mike Edgerton mentions above etc. It may, of course be a specially made instrument but as suggested by Mike it may be something cooked up and is not original.

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    It looks to me like someone might have tried to long neck a short-necked Gibson oval.
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    The number of frets to the body looks the same but the angle makes it a little hard to tell. I wonder if it has a FON inside?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    The number of frets to the body looks the same but the angle makes it a little hard to tell.
    That 12th fret looks way out front to me compared to my snakehead anyway.

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    Default Re: Can anyone identify this mandolin?

    The 12th fret is indeed much more accessible than most oval Gibson's.
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    Here's the real deal to compare it to, you might be right. The body is different than the early Gibson ovals. That would explain the funky bridge placement.
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    Default Re: Can anyone identify this mandolin?

    Where would that neck have been sourced (or built)? It looks like a 1930’s Gibson oval headstock with an F5 Florida extension. Did H. Russell try to make a Mrs. Griffith oval A00.5?
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    Without having the instrument in hand or at least a few better pictures there is probably no way to make certain.
    "Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them". These are the words of J. Garber.

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    Default Re: Can anyone identify this mandolin?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    Without having the instrument in hand or at least a few better pictures there is probably no way to make certain.
    Do we know where the instrument is located, 1939Dodge? There was an H. Russell Truitt in the Pittsburgh area:

    https://www.post-gazette.com/ae/musi...s/200710110330

    He was apparently a mandolin teacher for over 60 years and a salesman for Gibson:

    https://sites.google.com/a/pittsburg...me/our-history
    1924 Gibson A Snakehead
    2005 National RM-1
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    2009 Passernig A5
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