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    I'm planning to buy a used mandolin this week, none of which are where I can play them. (I have about eight candidates from five different stores, lol, but not all candidates are Collings.)

    I'm looking for opinions from players who own or have played a reasonable number of MF and MT2 mandolins. I've played one MF and two MT2's in the past year and liked both models. I do love a scroll, so the MF would have that in its favor, but with the MT2 being the top of the MT family and the MF being the bottom of the F family, am I losing any volume/tone by going with the MF? Am I mainly losing the glossy back and sides as well as the extra binding and headstock inlay? I managed to play an MT2 and an MT in one store last fall and the MT2 did seem to have a more refined tone. Would the MF be closer to the MT?

    Any opinions appreciated! (Unfortunately, I do understand that models vary from instrument to instrument, but I keep reading that Collings seem to be pretty consistent.)
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    Default Re: Collings MT2 vs MF-GT?

    Not sure about the MF vs MT2 but I bought a used MT2 a year ago and absolutely love it.

    Significantly better than the new MTs locally IMO, esp in the upper registers.

    Tried it out at the same time as one of Ken's and it had such presence and cut in jams that it was the one I kept. Very happy with the call as I have found a lot of great tone.

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    Don’t at least some of the higher end MTs feature European spruce? That and cooked tops will affect tone. I’ve played the range of MFs many times at Gryphon, and there has always seemed to me to be a very slight something extra as you go up the line. Subtle but there. But the power of the scroll is strong and I’d have no problem with an MF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Br1ck View Post
    Don’t at least some of the higher end MTs feature European spruce?
    Yes. Mine is billed as `Italian'. It's really something, esp now that it's been properly broken in.
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    My advice is go for the MT2. They're fine instruments. I had one and miss it. I bought a used MF online a few years back expecting it to be equal or better than the MT2. I was disappointed in the tone and traded it away. I have a Pava Player (kind of an A5 design, I think) and I've been playing it a lot lately. You'll get more tone for your money in that price range with a good A, probably.
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    That MF-GT at mando Mutt looks pretty sweet. I saw you put an add inquiring about used Ellis A styles, looks like two popped up in the classifieds recently.

    Good hunting!
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    I would go with the MT2

    I am finally getting my used MT2 after it spending three months in Barajas warehouse with ADTPostales in Madrid. Boy did I have to lots of phone calls and messages on their message board before it was finally cleared for delivery. I am still to wait for it clear the coronavirus affected area of Madrid before it head finally into the country. Have to be careful with corona virus latching onto cardboard boxes - they can last there for up to 24 hours. It may take that long to get to me anyway. Precaution is better than a cure so they say. Will be handling it carefully. Don't watch to catch no coronavirus. No sirree!
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    You were looking for an Ellis? Then think about the Pavas as well. (Which I referred to above.) I had an Ellis A for a while in the catch-and-release program. It was nice but not the sound I was going for at the time. The Pavas come out of the Ellis shop. I can't honestly tell you what the difference is between the two beside the name.
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    Feast your eyes. NOT FOR SALE! PM me if you'd like a sound file. (Not sure how I managed to post three versions of one photo.)

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    How goes the search Doug? Have you narrowed it down?
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    I have a Collings MT torrified and love it. I went Nashville to get an MF and walked out of Carter’s with a Northfield F5s instead, it just felt and sounded better and was way less expensive.
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    I am curious. You indicate that you like the Northfield more than the MF you checked out. How does your Northfield compare with your MT torrified? Or is it apples and oranges - i.e. both good in their own way?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rashi63 View Post
    I have a Collings MT torrified and love it. I went Nashville to get an MF and walked out of Carter’s with a Northfield F5s instead, it just felt and sounded better and was way less expensive.

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    Default Re: Collings MT2 vs MF-GT?

    I had the same experience last year at Avenue Guitars in Colorado. Played a beautiful quilted Collings F-5 (10 K if I remember) then played a Northfield F-5. The Northfield had tone in spades over the Collings. I did not buy either one as I already own a Girouard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles E. View Post
    How goes the search Doug? Have you narrowed it down?
    It was TOUGH! So many tempting choices. I ended up buying a two point Kimble.
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    Good on you!!! Enjoy.

    Oh, when you get it, we want pics and sound clips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Brock View Post
    It was TOUGH! So many tempting choices. I ended up buying a two point Kimble.
    I think you’ll be very happy with the Kimble! I’m amazed that the Kimble at Greg Boyd’s is still there ~ it’s a wonderful sounding and playing mandolin at a great price. If I were in the market for a great F ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABmando View Post
    I am curious. You indicate that you like the Northfield more than the MF you checked out. How does your Northfield compare with your MT torrified? Or is it apples and oranges - i.e. both good in their own way?
    Great question. They are "different." There is something very special about the terrified MT - from the beautiful Maple and finish to the smell and the notes seem to explode off the soundboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denman John View Post
    I think you’ll be very happy with the Kimble! I’m amazed that the Kimble at Greg Boyd’s is still there ~ it’s a wonderful sounding and playing mandolin at a great price. If I were in the market for a great F ...
    Just went to their website, don't see it listed.

    Doug, is that the one you bought?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles E. View Post
    Just went to their website, don't see it listed.

    Doug, is that the one you bought?
    It’s this one: https://gregboyd.com/product/2006-wi...ersari-2-of-5/
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    Sorry about that, missed the reference to the F. My brain was still on the two point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles E. View Post
    Just went to their website, don't see it listed.

    Doug, is that the one you bought?
    I bought it from The Music Emporium. Doesn’t show sold, but is scheduled for delivery tomorrow.
    https://themusicemporium.com/mandoli...two-point-2018
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    that is because they are such a good store, they are making sure you are happy when you receive it. (You may have to wait before opening!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Brock View Post
    I bought it from The Music Emporium. Doesn’t show sold, but is scheduled for delivery tomorrow.
    https://themusicemporium.com/mandoli...two-point-2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Brock View Post
    I bought it from The Music Emporium. Doesn’t show sold, but is scheduled for delivery tomorrow.
    https://themusicemporium.com/mandoli...two-point-2018
    That is a beautiful looking mandolin! I’m looking forward to hearing your impressions when you get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABmando View Post
    that is because they are such a good store, they are making sure you are happy when you receive it. (You may have to wait before opening!)
    I was quite impressed with my experience so far (and their photography is simply amazing! I never tire of looking through the images of their instruments).
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    Good point about the photography! Check out the photography on my MT2-V I bought from Music Emporium: https://themusicemporium.com/mandoli...pruce-wide-nut

    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Brock View Post
    I was quite impressed with my experience so far (and their photography is simply amazing! I never tire of looking through the images of their instruments).

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