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    My viola is my fretless mandolin

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    300,00-400,000 GBP? Keep smoking that good good leaf.

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    Just pull the frets out of your guitar.Jaco did.

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    Blasphemy. Jaco would not be caught in the same room with a guitar. This makes Me Sad.
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    https://youtu.be/al1Fp6wd-P8

    I saw this guy last month. Who needs frets?

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    Bartell's of Califormoa made it. Their non-Beatle, fretted guitars run about $1000-1500 on the vintage market. The funniest thing is that the guy who owns it is only known as "a guitarist named Ray". I wonder if he has any proof that John and George ever owned it.

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    Who needs chords?After Jaco pulled the frets on his bass he filled tho slots and applied marine varnish.He found extra notes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandolinstew View Post
    My viola is my fretless mandolin
    Actually it's your fretless mandola. That is, if tuned CGDA.
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    It’s tuned e a d g (I got an e string for viola and the neck is the same size as a mandolin)I’m going to put frets on it.It is tuned like a mandola.I was wondering if someone would notice that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    Bartell's of Califormoa made it. Their non-Beatle, fretted guitars run about $1000-1500 on the vintage market. The funniest thing is that the guy who owns it is only known as "a guitarist named Ray". I wonder if he has any proof that John and George ever owned it.

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    I saw the programme and the bloke that owned it also had a photograph of George Harrison standing amongst a collection of instruments including the one in question.

    A luthier mate of mine once built a resonator uke for GH - he always wondered what happened to it after GH died and always regretted cashing the cheque.

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    These TV shows are great at telling you what they think something is worth, but in most cases we never find out what they actually sell for . . . .

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    That same show priced a Gibson Jr. mandolin at $7000. Need I say more.
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    Years ago I read the back of a sitar album and it said Indian music used a 167 note scale, IIRC........

    I assume Harrison would be looking for those notes that are between the frets, considering his interest in sitar.

    "We" might call those semi-tones.....I might go so far as to call them notes I don't need very often......to put it politely.

    OTOH, Derek Trucks uses a slide to reach some raga-territory notes and it sounds good incorporated into some ballads. The Allman Brothers (later version with Warren Haynes singing) do a version of "Into The Mystic" that is great and Derek plays some Eastern-influenced slide on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandolinstew View Post
    My viola is my fretless mandolin
    Viola = fretless mandola, n'est pas?

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    It’s for sale with an auction estimate of £200,000 to £300,000 - any takers?

    https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25996/lot/184/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    Bartell's of Califormoa made it. Their non-Beatle, fretted guitars run about $1000-1500 on the vintage market. The funniest thing is that the guy who owns it is only known as "a guitarist named Ray". I wonder if he has any proof that John and George ever owned it.

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    For the record, the “guitarist named Ray” isn’t me!

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    Adventurous guitarists can order a fretless model here.. (NFI.)

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    Efren Lopez playing fretless guitar.

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    Oud players deal with a fretless neck all the time...and there are Turkish fretless guitars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandolinstew View Post
    Who needs chords?After Jaco pulled the frets on his bass he filled tho slots and applied marine varnish.He found extra notes.
    Jaco also had played string bass in school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Jacobson View Post
    Blasphemy. Jaco would not be caught in the same room with a guitar. This makes Me Sad.
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    Check out the "Trio of Doom" for Jaco with a guitar in the room.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray(T) View Post
    It’s for sale with an auction estimate of £200,000 to £300,000 - any takers?

    https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25996/lot/184/
    Can I get a discount on two, d'ya think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Statman View Post
    Can I get a discount on two, d'ya think?
    The discount comes in the auction house charges. If it doesn’t go higher than £300,000, you’ll only have to pay an extra 25% commission + 20% tax. Once it goes over £300,000 the drops to 20%. (That’s £90,000 if it goes for £300,000 which would buy you a half decent mandolin!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray(T) View Post
    The discount comes in the auction house charges. If it doesn’t go higher than £300,000, you’ll only have to pay an extra 25% commission + 20% tax. Once it goes over £300,000 the drops to 20%. (That’s £90,000 if it goes for £300,000 which would buy you a half decent mandolin!)
    ...how much for the fret-puller again?

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    If anyone's still interested, it was originally over-valued and sold for £237,562 including the auction house's charges. I'll let somebody else work out what the hammer price was - clearly too much!

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