Re: Ditson Victory
Originally Posted by
Jim Garber
As for strings and picks for classical mandolin today, I think it varies on the style you play and the school you attend or techniques you follow.
Thanks, Jim, that’s a better way of saying what I was trying to get across — there are trends and traditions, and it’s helpful to be aware of them. I certainly wouldn’t offer my observations as universal; surely the classical mandolin world is big enough for differing viewpoints and conclusions. I suspect, though, if the goal is to extend the expressive range of the mandolin, we should probably all throw our various picks away, and keep only the long Roman picks. And take lessons in Ranieri-style technique. Alas, it’s a bit late in the game for me to change!
I also use various picks, including (occasionally) the guitar pick teardrops. But my original point was just that since bowlback and carved designs often do not use the same picks and strings (and the vendors tend to ignore the vintage and bowlback markets completely) it can be difficult (especially for newcomers) to find the right equipment for bowlbacks, vintage or otherwise.
Originally Posted by
Jim Garber
I still maintain that very few people were playing classical music on mandolin even in that golden era. . .repertoire consisted of pop and vaudeville tunes, ragtime, and some plectral semi-classical pieces.
Fortunately we have a pretty good snapshot of what mandolin concerts sounded like, since Crescendo Magazine usually published concert programs with each issue. Lots of issues are online now; I see University of Rochester has dozens of issues available online, from 1910 through 1927. Below are two overlapping images of the same page (just to be more readable), from Crescendo’s June 1910 program listings.
For sure, it was primarily popular music, but the classical influence is easy to see, since emulating European art forms was mainstream at that time. Ragtime: originally conceived as a form of American chamber music. Tin Pan Alley songs: sometimes borrowing from European art song. Small- and large-group arrangements of popular arias, and familiar themes from classical symphonies etc. You could say it’s not really classical music, but I’d view much of this rep as an extension of classical music traditions—which have their own common ground with popular music.
And I’d add another category not yet mentioned: The golden era mandolin “art music,” mainly attributed to the early American virtuosos and composer/teachers (Abt, Stauffer, Odell, Stahl, etc.) and their Italian counterparts, all represented in these programs. One might expect that since the Crescendo editorial stance was in favor of separating mandolin from its (presumed) humble folk origins, perhaps these programs have been cherry-picked to make that point. But I think it’s clear that classical music traditions played a big part in the foundations of early American mandolin music, and those, in turn, on the mandolin music of today.
Crescendo, June 1910, program listings:
Exploring Classical Mandolin (Berklee Press, 2015)
Progressive Melodies for Mandocello (KDP, 2019) (2nd ed. 2022)
New Solos for Classical Mandolin (Hal Leonard Press, 2020)
2021 guest artist, mandocello: Classical Mandolin Society of America
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