How does it compare in your mind with your early Pava?
How does it compare in your mind with your early Pava?
1924 Gibson A Snakehead
2005 National RM-1
2007 Hester A5
2009 Passernig A5
2015 Black A2-z
2010 Black GBOM
2017 Poe Scout
2014 Smart F-Style Mandola
2018 Vessel TM5
2019 Hogan F5
1924 Gibson A Snakehead
2005 National RM-1
2007 Hester A5
2009 Passernig A5
2015 Black A2-z
2010 Black GBOM
2017 Poe Scout
2014 Smart F-Style Mandola
2018 Vessel TM5
2019 Hogan F5
There are certain consistencies that a particular builder/shop that we come to expect, so yes, they are all different, but a competent builder can shape the tonal qualities of an instrument to meet a player's preferences.
That said, if I had to compare my former Pava to this Ellis, I'd say the Pava was voiced more towards traditional "Gibsonesque" tone (read as "bluegrass"), and this one, close to ten years later, has more of a contemporary voice. The Pava never worked for playing Irish sessions or even old times ringing triads (think Angeline the Baker in D). It would get lost in a sea of guitars at a jam, no matter what strings I tried (although thinking back I probably should have tried John Pearse strings on it, now that I think of it).
I don't think it's the division of labor that creates the tonal qualities on an instrument. It is the voicing that creates the character that we hear, or at least a large part of it. The rest is left to technique (player style), strings, picks, and anything else that the individual owner/player brings to the mandolin as an outside influence.
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Thanks for the more elaborate response, Mary. I was including the voicer in the division of labor.
https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/t...59#post1279059
1924 Gibson A Snakehead
2005 National RM-1
2007 Hester A5
2009 Passernig A5
2015 Black A2-z
2010 Black GBOM
2017 Poe Scout
2014 Smart F-Style Mandola
2018 Vessel TM5
2019 Hogan F5
I think Tom voices some of them differently. TME had another A5 recently, which I played which was nothing like this one. In fact, before I drove down there I called and spoke to Andy Cambria and asked him what the voice was like on this one. He told me it was different than the one they had just sold, more overtones. Which was what I was looking for. It does not disappoint. And it has what appears to be a subtle speed neck.
"your posts ... very VERY opinionated ...basing your opinion/recommendations ... pot calling ...kettle... black...sarcasm...comment ...unwarranted...unnecessary...."
Interesting. Has Tom built any A5’s as part of his Traditional line? I was under the impression that he developed that option as an alternative to his usual voicing, which is noted for its complex overtones.
1924 Gibson A Snakehead
2005 National RM-1
2007 Hester A5
2009 Passernig A5
2015 Black A2-z
2010 Black GBOM
2017 Poe Scout
2014 Smart F-Style Mandola
2018 Vessel TM5
2019 Hogan F5
Not that I know of, but I've played a few Traditional F5's. I thought they were more contemporary sounding than his other mandolins. The torrified tops give them more or a "presence" for lack of a better word. They have a more fundamental voice. More volume. It's a different expectation, again. As they say, variety is what makes life interesting.
"your posts ... very VERY opinionated ...basing your opinion/recommendations ... pot calling ...kettle... black...sarcasm...comment ...unwarranted...unnecessary...."
Mary, since you’re talking voicing, could you compare/contrast the Ellis to your Heiden?
"your posts ... very VERY opinionated ...basing your opinion/recommendations ... pot calling ...kettle... black...sarcasm...comment ...unwarranted...unnecessary...."
Fair enough. I’ll just have to be patient.
Looks like another one with tortoise binding has just been posted at The Music Emporium. These are beautiful mandolins.
https://themusicemporium.com/mandoli...gbird_sunburst
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