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    Hello Eugene - I have printed it out and shall digest it shortly. Thank you very much.

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    Tim, I understand what you are saying about the CMSA convention music. The en masse orchestra music can seem daunting and the level of playing has certainly risen over the years. You are the best judge of your abilities but I know that many attendees work hard to get as many of the notes as they can. Plus you can usually find someone there who is willing to work on the music with you.

    Since CMSA next year will be on the other side of the country from you, you might want to consider attending Marilynn Mair's excellent AMGuSS camp in June in Rhode Island. I've never been able to go but I know lots of people who have attended and love it. I see on last year's registration form that they ask you about your playing level and even offer to supply simplified orchestra parts if desired. I've met most of the staff over the years and they are all first rate players and teachers. Plus if you go to AMGuSS and find it beneficial it might encourage to go to CMSA in the fall too. (I realize that not everyone can afford to attend even one, let alone two, of these events.)

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    As for CMSA and John's comments above: The two CMSA conventions I have attended have been very inspiring and friendly events. I would not worry too much abut the level of your playing. If nothing else you will be encouraged to play and work on your music more. The EnMasse Orchestra is a trip in itself. And I would bet there are more than few small mistakes that some players make but the overall effect is amazing. I don't know if he is still doing it but Jim Bates was the conductor and he is amazing at his literal crowd control (IIRC around 100 plectrum-playing enthusiasts), plus he make it fun. A great experience, in any case.

    Yes, I wish I had the resources to travel across the country but maybe sometime when they again have CMSA nearer to me, I will again attend.

    BTW Tim, I don't recall if you are currently taking classical lessons online or in person or if you play with any other folks. I don't know if there are any mandolin groups in western Massachusetts. I seem to recall that Adam Sweet was trying to organize something a few years back.
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    I wanted to add that, not only is Sebastian a phenomenal player and performer, he is also a wonderfully down to earth and nice human being. We were thrilled to talk to him at CMSA this year. Truly a wonderful PERSON as well as musician. LOVE Het Consort too!
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    Eugene -
    I’ve read through your Big Mandolin Reference Sheet. Outstanding and concise source of information - I mean, really great! Thank you.

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    When I was seeking inspiration regarding my dive into mandolin's classical repertoire, one recorded expression of virtuosity that mesmerized me was Gertrud Tröster's (now Weyhofen) Romantic Mandolin of Raffaele Calace: 10 Preludes. It's worthy of a listen.

    I like John's reference to Neil Gladd. Neil's compositions are some of my favorite contemporary works, especially his second sonata (which I don't believe has ever been recorded, unfortunately). (I like John's compositions too.)

    I've shared before (and it's a little outdated), but this little introductory document that I compiled to tempt classical guitarists with mandolins when I occasionally lecture might be of interest, Tim.

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    It really needs an update. So much has happened since: e.g., Graham McDonald's big book.

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    . . . And much less easily found and bought, but I suspect you'd like Sebastiaan's album Fantasia Romantica as well.

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    I was particularly fascinated by the section on 18th c stringing using brass and gut. As a result I found the thread “historical strings” and have printed out a long article found there on this topic. Unfortunately, in a few moments I will be leaving for an all day teaching session - but in the meantime, are you aware of any recordings using a gut E with brass a, d, and g? I see an “octave g” mentioned but not yet clear what that means! Thank you. Cheers!

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    This album uses historic stringing as prescribed by some mid-1700s method books: https://www.amazon.com/Mandolin-Fort...ZA8/ref=sr_1_2

    The g course is in two octaves to brighten tone: silver-wound silk (like a classical guitar string and a little too thumpy in context) the g below the treble staff and bright-voiced brass wire on the g' low on the staff's lines.

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    Coincidentally, it looks like the record company's parent company has uploaded the whole of the above-referenced album to YouTube, albeit not necessarily sequentially. The octave g'-g course is perhap most evident in Beethoven's "Sonatine in C Major for Mandolin and Fortepiano, WoO 44a."

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...sofronitzki%22

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