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    Default Andrew Marlin's Pick

    I like to watch players and their technique, as most of us do. Mandolin Orange is a favorite and currently in our queue... if that is the word for "ready to hear next". Well, as I watch Andrew as he plays, I have noticed two things that are helpful or are giving me ideas to possibly employ as I play.

    One is that he seems to have a very small, jazz-like pick in his hand as he plays. It doesn't appear to be a thick pick, either. Also, he moves up the fretboard with his right hand when he goes to play tremolo. It appears picks that are similar to those he uses are like the Pickboy mandolin (heart shaped?) picks. I think the smaller, pointed pick used up the neck increases ease of the pick's release from the strings to increase speed and smoothness of tremolo. What say ye?
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    There are several posts on Andrew's IG account where Wegen (TF 100) picks are clearly shown, and another where he mentions that he tried out some Red Bear picks. All of those are larger, triangle-ish picks. Can't recall seeing him play with a smaller pick.

    I'll have to pay closer attention when we see him with the BIAC crew next month. Can't wait for that!

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    at 31:13 and other spots there's closeups that do show a pretty small pick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqWBth_rLgw

    I have a lot of these picks for 6 string guitar , i've tried them for mandolin and other instruments, they give different tone. This is one i have trouble holding onto, it's so small https://www.stringsbymail.com/dandre...ick-18801.html

    I use metal finger and thumbpicks a lot also but those don't work so well on mandolin.
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    I don't personally believe that the size of the pick matters much. I find a larger triangle pick to be faster, in part because it takes very little effort to hold (more surface area to grip) and it's easy to vary how much pick extends beyond the fingers. But I find pointiness to be key to smooth, controlled tremolo. A sharper point seems to activate the strings well with even a light touch, and is also more accurate (at least for me). I'm also trying to work on moving up the fretboard with my pick hand as I play tremolo. Joe K. Walsh and others use this method to vary the tone so much that it sounds almost like a wah-wah pedal.
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    Thanks Kevin. Admittedly, it is hard to tell from a video. The one time we saw him in July we had a great seat in the front, but on the side. I couldn't tell from that angle. Anyway, just really curious. And, how do you feel about the smaller pointed picks? Enjoy the concert!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gtani7 View Post
    at 31:13 and other spots there's closeups that do show a pretty small pick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqWBth_rLgw

    I have a lot of these picks for 6 string guitar , i've tried them for mandolin and other instruments, they give different tone. This is one i have trouble holding onto, it's so small https://www.stringsbymail.com/dandre...ick-18801.html

    I use metal finger and thumbpicks a lot also but those don't work so well on mandolin.
    gtani7, I appreciate the ideas! I went to that link and think that those teardrop picks might be worth a try. Thanks!
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    onassis, Very interesting thoughts! Thanks for the reply. I agree that the large triangle makes a lot of sense. My best sound and fluid play experiences may have come from my Blue Chip CT55 though I have wondered if I should have bought the rounded rather than beveled right handed version. This is a helpful discussion. I have way too many picks and need to practice so much more! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by gtani7 View Post
    at 31:13 and other spots there's closeups that do show a pretty small pick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqWBth_rLgw

    I have a lot of these picks for 6 string guitar , i've tried them for mandolin and other instruments, they give different tone. This is one i have trouble holding onto, it's so small https://www.stringsbymail.com/dandre...ick-18801.html

    I use metal finger and thumbpicks a lot also but those don't work so well on mandolin.
    At 33:13, as you indicated, that pick does look fairly small. Going up the neck is definitely a technique he uses, also. Interesting! Thanks for the vids.
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    Not sure what Andrew is playing with these days, but heís killiní it. Iím a CT-55/Wegen TF-140 guy. Iíve tried rounded (Golden Gate and Primetone Dawg) shapes and struggle to get tone/volume with them. I picked up some pointier Jazz shaped picks on a whim that are good picks, but I just prefer the larger triangles. My old guitar teacher played with nothing but the smaller jazz shaped picks. Canít recall now if he used nylon or Dunlop Tortex, but he preferred them to the BC Jazz pick I gave him for Christmas one year. (Of course, he appreciated the thought behind the BC, but he always played his old stand bys)...

    I picked up a BC TAD 60 3R a couple of weeks ago as I was consigning some mandos, and itís OK, but so far I still prefer the point on the CT-55. Giving it some time, though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lflngpicker View Post
    Thanks Kevin. Admittedly, it is hard to tell from a video. The one time we saw him in July we had a great seat in the front, but on the side. I couldn't tell from that angle. Anyway, just really curious. And, how do you feel about the smaller pointed picks? Enjoy the concert!
    Coming from guitar/bass, I started playing mandolin with a guitar pick. I soon got into the Traveling Pick Sampler here and that really opened my ears as to how much difference in tone the pick makes. Ended up liking the Wegen TF's and Primetone's. The larger triangle shape stays put in my hand better. I tried the smaller, pointier picks and did not care for them much. I'll try and get a good look at what Andrew is using, but it seems he tries lots of stuff.

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    i just measured the D'Andrea, it's 5/8" wide and just under 1" long, so.. pretty darned small. I thought about dipping in Plastidip but that's really messy toxic stuff

    I also saw the other thread about fingerpicking, including youtube links from https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/t...style-mandolin. Interesting, I'll have to try that, I've been pedal steeling with these: https://www.elderly.com/products/gre...of-fingerpicks

    and https://clawjam.com/shop?olsPage=pro...eel-thumb-pick
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    Ah! You tricked me into reading another pick thread!

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    Interesting. When did Andrew start playing a Gibson? I am so out of the loop. I'm looking forward to seeing Mandolin Orange when they come to town next January.

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    He's had that Loar about 6 months or so. They deserve each other.

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    Default Re: Andrew Marlin's Pick

    Meanwhile, I bought a Blue Chip SR 60, as I have a CT 55 and enjoy that one. I got the round bevel this time to avoid any hang ups on strings when playing tremolo. Good release so far. Haven't been going up the fretboard, either. You guys are good group! Fun.
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    Interesting thoughts. My own experience has taught me that lack of pointiness actually makes for smoother tremolo. A thick, stuff, rounded, beveled pick like a Wegen M250 makes fast, controlled tremolo much easier for me; the pick seems to glide more easily back and forth. Maybe that just means I should practice more.

    Coming from guitar, I initially used thin celluloid picks on mandolin, but after experimenting with a variety of picks, I find that thicker, stiffer picks work better. The closest thing to a guitar pick that I like on mandolin is the Dunlop 2mm Standard Primetone (510P2.0), but I'm usually more likely to be playing with a 3mm Dunlop Big Stubby (purple Lexan, very pointy) or a Wegen M250.
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