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    Recently got into Tim O'Brien's version of this old Woody Guthrie tune. I've done some googling and wasn't able to find that much. I wouldn't mind just a loose chord chart and try to figure it out from there, but haven't even found that.

    This is the Tim O'Brien version on guitar (obviously I'll be playing it on mandolin).


    Anyone have any ideas for where to find any info or do I just need to figure it out by ear?
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    Well, he's playing it in E and its Woody Guthrie, so I suspect, and it sounds it too, that its I-V, I-IV, maybe not quite that order, with a vi (minor) in it. And it sure sounds like the Crawdad song as well.

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    You can probably drop everything by two frets too to play it in D major, a more familiar key, though if you don’t know the song then it’s easier to get the breaks in E major by ear first.

    Check with Woody vids to see what key he used, and therefore what key most other guitarists will probably use.

    Another way, and some people may be horrified by this, is to put a capo on the second fret of your mandolin while you play along with the vid at 50% speed (to get the break). Then take the capo off and play it the same way, but it’s now in D major.
    Whatever it takes.

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    Thanks guys... I was assuming he was in C with the capo on 4... I'll give it a try.
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    Thanks Soliver, I hadn’t thought about that.

    Yes he’s playing capo IV in E major, using the C formation which, on guitar, makes it easy to move laterally (ground to sky) to get the F formation notes using the same shape and the G bass notes in the opposite direction, also using the same shaped formation. ie. I, IV, V actually in E major. This makes it much easier to pick out the melody while still having double stops available as the background chord changes.

    I say thanks because maybe the key of E on the mando has similar properties, probably, I don’t know.
    Will check (in the morning)

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    The relative minor is just used to harmonize one of the runs and is not essential. It is Crawdad song as Woody lifted other melodies for his words as par of his MO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Buckingham View Post
    The relative minor is just used to harmonize one of the runs and is not essential. It is Crawdad song as Woody lifted other melodies for his words as par of his MO.
    Part of a long folk music tradition to write songs that follow common melodies, etc etc

    In this case, Tim O’Brien is responsible for the melody, not Woody. Woody Guthrie left numerous notebooks full of his song lyrics with no musical notation and for which there are no recordings. Occasionally, his daughter dispenses lyrics to musicians who she feels will do them justice. Such is the case with all the songs on the recent Del and Woody album.

    From the Woody Guthrie website, here’s The Sun Jumped Up, words by Woody, music by Tim. https://www.woodyguthrie.org/Lyrics/Sun_Jumped_Up.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by soliver View Post
    Recently got into Tim O'Brien's version of this old Woody Guthrie tune. I've done some googling and wasn't able to find that much. I wouldn't mind just a loose chord chart and try to figure it out from there, but haven't even found that.

    This is the Tim O'Brien version on guitar (obviously I'll be playing it on mandolin).


    Anyone have any ideas for where to find any info or do I just need to figure it out by ear?
    Neat song ! Really like it !
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