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    Letís say, totally hypothetically, I inherited money I didnít expect and have no other pressing needs to spend it on. And I was already in the process of saving for a mandolin.
    $10k inherited and almost $6k saved up.

    I have 2 Collings MT2 (one F one oval) and a weber bighorn I play regularly. Have a nice northfield octave and Collings guitar too.

    I need a wide neck, 1 3/16ths is what I have accepted as necessary for me, had to move on from a couple of nice mandolins that had narrower necks, they simply hurt my left hand.

    I do not have an F style, donít particularly care if I have one, tone and playability are all I care about.

    I would be willing to sell the collings guitar and perhaps even my oval hole MT2 if it meant I could get the right instrument... but I donít know what that is. The only instrument in that price range I have ever wanted was a Nugget.

    Given what I have stated above, what would you be looking at?
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    Personally I'd be looking at making my retirement account grow.

    Buying for the sake of buying is nice but it doesn't sound like you're looking for a specific instrument. Spend some of that money on a trip to Nashville and stop at Carters or go up to Elderly in Lansing and see if there's anything that you just can't live without. Then again if you want a Nugget now might be the time to go see Mike Kemnitzer.
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    I agree with Mike. As I said in another thread moments ago, the instrument that gets the most play-time from my small collection is actually my least expensive instrument. That doesn't mean I don't value or play my 'better' instruments, it just means that simple one is the one I have the most fun with.

    What I am trying to say is expense doesn't necessarily equal value to you. And what the instrument does for you is all that really matters (within reason).

    So, don't think you have to spend that (hypothetical) money; it's not burning a hole in your pocket. If it ever comes to you, take a trip or two to check out lots of instruments. Look for the one you can't live without. You may find that it's one you already have, or it's less expensive than you might have imagined.

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    It’s admirable that folks offer sensible guidance. That said, if I was looking for an upper tier mandolin, I personally would enjoy playing a Randy Wood. Such a wonderful voice and so eminently playable. There was only one other boutique builder mandolin that truly interested me; but if the two were side by side and I HAD to make a choice, the Randy Wood would win out. Just personal preference, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    Personally I'd be looking at making my retirement account grow.

    Buying for the sake of buying is nice but it doesn't sound like you're looking for a specific instrument. Spend some of that money on a trip to Nashville and stop at Carters or go up to Elderly in Lansing and see if there's anything that you just can't live without. Then again if you want a Nugget now might be the time to go see Mike Kemnitzer.
    Retirement account is good, plenty going into it! A trip or custom order sounds reasonable...
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    Well, like ya say.......hypothetical......

    It's a nice thing to own, to hold, to play......no argument there....

    What the heck, it's STILL cheaper than a sports car!!!

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    "Given what I have stated above, what would you be looking at?" I'd get a hold of Mike Kemnitzer. Nuggets are fine mandolins & given that you want a wider neck, you're unlikely to find what you're after on the used market. Why not pay him a visit and order one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Mando View Post
    Well, like ya say.......hypothetical......

    It's a nice thing to own, to hold, to play......no argument there....

    What the heck, it's STILL cheaper than a sports car!!!
    I guess the real hypothetical part is do I want to spend that much on an instrument! Lol

    And I guess the real story is when my grandma died, she left each grandkid money and I saved most of it, but spent a little on my first good guitar.

    My aunt has now passed and it kinda seems appropriate to spend it on my ďlastĒ mandolin.

    Before this happened I was saving up for an A-style Ellis or Apitius I was thinking I would custom order with a wide neck. Perhaps the only difference is now a nugget is in the runnings too?

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    Well, now I’d have to look at the secondary market for one of Bill Halsey’s F-5’s. But, the grow the retirement account thought makes lots, more sense.
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    I'm of the opinion that you only live once. Do it without any regrets. If your budget allows it, go for it. If you buy right, then when it comes time, you should be able to get your money back out of it - maybe more. Even if you lose a little money on it, you had the opportunity to enjoy a fine instrument for a while and that part is priceless.
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    So this is not a hypothetical question at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Br1ck View Post
    So this is not a hypothetical question at all?
    I’m still talking myself into it, but yeah, it’s not hypothetical at all, I just wasn’t sure how much detail I wanted to supply
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    My friend Brick, whenever I think I have enough mandolins, I go to a place like Carter Vintage, especially the high end room. That said, that room is loaded with F5s and mostly if not all are +10k. I can imagine with a desire for a 10k A model, I would make a call to Steve Gilchrist or Paul Duff and see what they would make for me. Two other builders that I have personally used and recommend are Gail Hester and Andrew Mowry.

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    Another I would call is Tom Ellis. He would make you a monster A. Great guy to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dang View Post
    Letís say, totally hypothetically, I inherited money I didnít expect and have no other pressing needs to spend it on. And I was already in the process of saving for a mandolin.
    $10k inherited and almost $6k saved up.

    The only instrument in that price range I have ever wanted was a Nugget.
    If youíve been wanting a Nugget, you probably wonít be satisfied with anything else. I say go for it.

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    Having religiously avoided the high dollar market, I'm not qualified to give an opinion, so my opinion is if there was something out there that you've played that rocked your world, and you can now make it possible without detriment to the rest of your life plans, go for it.

    I should never have played that Ellis. I guess that is the threshold to the good stuff. But heck, I've saved a bunch of money driving my last four cars to 250,000 miles.....
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    The part of your post that caught my attention was the little part where you said you don't know what the right instrument is. I'd say step one has to be finding the answer to that question by playing through the possibilities.

    I think it's a nice gesture to apply inherited money to an instrument you'll love and likely play every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red7flag View Post
    Another I would call is Tom Ellis. He would make you a monster A. Great guy to deal with.
    Dang, Tom Ellis is a great guy...& that's what I did, but I'm primarily a guitar player....& if i had a hankering for a Nugget.... i'd make it happen. Joe K Walsh loves his.

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    Hey, man!

    It seems you have quite the situation on your hands. If I read your post right, you inherited $10k, saved $16k, and are willing to sell or trade about another $5k in current instruments. So, with about $20k to work with, the mandolin world is practically your oyster, or your mother of pearl, haha.

    I also think for that amount of money you owe it to yourself to really see and hear what's out there. For a small portion of the money, you could travel to Nashville, Elderly, The Mandolin Store, even independent builders to see what they have. I also don't think you need to spend all $20k on an instrument. You already have a few good instruments, so you have a good idea of what $5k will get you. Do you get quadruple more if you spend quadruple more. Maybe. But, Ellis, Kimble, and tons of other high-end, independent builders don't cost $20k for even their most elaborate models. Nugget's, Dude's, Moneteleone's, Gilchrist's, and the like are awesome, but they're not the only awesome game in town, and one reason they are so pricey is they are so established, due to the fact that they are so awesome. The brand is strong so they can charge more.

    I'm convinced you could buy that incredible instrument you want, keep everything you have, and still walk away with some of the money.

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    In your shoes? I'd go find a Sam Bush model Gibson!

    Yeah, that's my one f-model dream. . .

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    Since you don't need an F-style...(awesome!)
    You can look at the best A-styles around. Dudenbostel, Nugget, and Gilchrist A-models would all be well within your means. You wouldn't even need to sell anything and may have money left over.
    Take your time - and maybe a trip to Nashville.

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    having found myself in this position, I can tell you eighteen months on, I still haven't found anything that I'd be willing to buy at the $16k+ level.
    Good Advice: Play before you pay, and know your product and your market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dang View Post
    The only instrument in that price range I have ever wanted was a Nugget.
    This statement stuck out above all others. You have the (hypothetical) cash and the desire... so what is your question? As others have stated, call Mr. K. Right now. Hypothetically, of course.

    You really should have posted this as "A friend of mine inherited money he didn't expect..."
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    Being that you don't NEED an F style, the world is genuinely your oyster on this one. If Nugget is your dream, fulfill the dream. If you're open to shopping, make that Nashville trip. Do yourself a favor and include a Heiden and a in your shopping. Also, don't settle for the first of any you find. Play a bunch even from the same maker. They each have their sound periods and two instruments built 10 years apart will be different. You may also find that $5k on a used Ellis A steals the show, then you've got the funds left to go play it anywhere in the country.

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    Get what ya want, life is short and very unexpected! I pulled the trigger on some old 5's and don't look back as far as retirement account well a high end mandolin is it-I sure wouldn't bet on anything in a bank nowadays! Yeah a conundrum but play your $ instead of looking at how much ya have in a statement?

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