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    I'm all ears for theories as to how this carnage may have happened.
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    Looks intentional to me. Anyone else in your room? Someone knocked it off the wall and it landed on a headstock below? Sure looks like a strong impact to me. No one trying to stand on a side like we have seen some upright bass players doing?
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    Not my room. A customer's.
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    Looks like impact to me.
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    I agree-- it looks like physical shock [impact, crushing force, veryextreme string tension, etc.] rather than environmental [humidity, temperature].

    1. It fell.
    2. Something hit it.
    3. It was swung against something hard.
    4. It was in a case, and somebody stepped on or sat on the case.

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    You've got seams split but the kicker is that big old crack. That wasn't the environment. I'm going with the spirits and if that doesn't work I'll say impact.
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    There is even cracking on the other side of the tail piece sure looks like it was dropped to me.
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    An angry lady with a fireplace poker.

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    Look at the white marks on the wall by the door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Bertotti View Post
    Look at the white marks on the wall by the door.
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    Poltergeist.

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    It fell from its hanger, hit the headstock on the Stratocaster, then bounced into the wall, causing the damage to the paint on the wall. The Strat, being a solid beasty and on a floor stand, would be an unyielding thing to hit and could cause that very precise impact which then tore the side apart under the string tension.

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    Can you tell if the tail block was glued to the back?

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    My theory: a cat snuck into the room, used the side of the mando as a scratch post to sharpen it's claws. Then, the cat turned to jump off of the ukulele and got its tail stuck in the tailpiece, which pulled the mandolin down with the cat. The impact rips the mandolin along the scoring from the claws. The cat then (sneaky little monster) figures she'd be found out and put the mandolin back in its hanger.
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    My theory is you made the wife/girlfriend mad? And then behold the terror!

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    'Hot car event,' and/or rib-back glue creep...?

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    Looks like the initial break on both sides was around the end of the tailpiece. Probably landed hard on the tailpiece.
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    All the theories so far seem to indicate that the mandolin must have been picked up and REPLACED ON ITS HANGER after the damage occurred. That had to happen with human intervention, even if the initial accident was caused by a pet, a person, or a poltergeist. And whoever that human was, he or she probably knows something...

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    Reminds me of something that happened at a local GC in my area, they had a new RB-250 hanging above a new F-9 and something less pricey hanging below that... Somehow the RB-250 let loose, probably after being re-hung poorly by a customer, although it could also have been an earthquake. The neck and resonator on the RB-250 were splintered. The F-9 was unrecognizable, a pile of wooden shards... I don't know that happened to the instrument below them.

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    I swear you fellows are so full of it that y’all miss the obvious. The mandolin induced this upon itself in an effort to “Open up”....sheesh

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    What kind of wood is that?

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    Looks like a pure case of Mando suicide. It just couldn't take another butchering of Goldrush.
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    How about: somebody (not the owner, probably a kid) idly picks up the mando, plays it a bit, puts it back improperly. When they close the door leaving the room the mando falls, glances off the bass and lands hard on the tail. The bass then falls toward the door causing the white marks and additional damage to the mando. The player says “Oh no!” Quickly inspects for damage but everything seems fine and they reset the scene. The owner is busy and several days go by. In this interval the player to cause the damage has left the scene and the string tension rips the mando apart along the fracture lines.

    Or leprechauns.

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    I'm glad were not all trying to figure out an actual murder... on second thought, let's all play clue...
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    Impact is always my first thought with something like this. However, impact will typically crack the sides (as on the bass side here) rather than separate a glue joint (as on the treble side). Let's rule out impact for a moment. If the glue joint on treble side and bank failed, along with the joint between the tail block and back, the top could pull up. As long as the tail block held, it couldn't move much. Once the tail block was free, the crack would try to continue around the bass side, but that glue joint held, so it ripped the side creating the cross grain crack we see at the edge of the tail block, until the bass side split down the middle.
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