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    Default Grace Design BiX Acoustic Instrument Preamp

    again looking for eq preamp for violin/mando , personal experience with this.

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    Both the companies you are inquiring about have built solid reputations for quality products. Your best bet is to buy both, try them side by side and return one.
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    thanks , that does look like the option to do, I have not had much luck with personal experience on a couple of violin and mando sites.

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    it doesn't have a sweepable mid control if thats important to you.

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    Default Re: Grace Design BiX Acoustic Instrument Preamp

    Grace Design preamps are the best I've found. I use the Felix.

    Check out the Grace Alex for single channel use.
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    Start looking in the Alex price range and the Tonedexter begins to look intreguing. I'm an analog kind of guy, but man, having your mandolin sound like your mandolin , that's enticing.
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    Default Re: Grace Design BiX Acoustic Instrument Preamp

    +1 for BrIck: I took an extensive A/B comparison with my Collings MF 5 mandolin today:
    1. mandolin straight to an old Neumann KM84 mic (my studio fav)
    2. Pickup (K&K) through Tone Dexter (I own one for three weeks now)
    3. Pickup / attached mic (DPA 4061) mixed 50/50 through Grace Felix (HPF on both channels) - my current live set up

    All signals went to an QSC Touchmix 16 Mixer (no EQ) and on to a pair of QSC K8.2 speakers.

    Result: I just could not believe how close the Tone Dexter sounds to the Neumann mic.

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    Also a ToneDexter fan, though I have only used it with my fiddle (don’t have a mandolin pu yet). I said elsewhere that if you want your instrument to sound like it’s mic’ed but you can’t or don’t want to use a mic, get a ToneDexter. No knock at all on the Grace stuff, they are great with lots of features, but they are only as good as your pickup system - a piezo will still sound like a piezo. The TD initially takes a fair amount of experimentation to get dialed in, but even my first attempt sounded light-years better than any other setup I’ve heard. IMO in general most mandolin piezo pickups sound better than fiddle piezos (as in “more natural”), so a TD might not be as crucial. But if you’re planning on using it with your violin too, I can’t recommend it enough.

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    Default Re: Grace Design BiX Acoustic Instrument Preamp

    I use a Grace Design Bix at Church for guitar but I personally own a ToneDexter and use it all the time on mandolin with the group and prefer to use it on guitar at Church when I can. The Bix does well, sounds nice, no issues but the ToneDexter does let you have more of a mic'd sound and so plugging in isn't as bad as it used to be.
    ToneDexter is worth the money in the long run.
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    thanks I have the pz pre now but will look into the tonedexter

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