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    My father passed recently and I got his mandolin. He was 88. He got the instrument from his father who had claimed to have won it at a poker game. Anybody seen one like this and possibly know vintage or maker? I am loving its tone. It must be 70-80 years old.
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    Default Re: Inherited and no manufacturer markings on this 2-point mandol

    It looks to me like a Shutt/Harmony model like this one listed in a wanted ad on the Cafe classifieds:

    https://www.mandolincafe.com/ads/140295#140295
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    Wow! Yes, it does look like that.

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    It was made by Harmony in Chicago circa 1920-30, maybe a little later. Look inside with a flashlight and see if you can see a stamped number that has an F or S in front of it like F-24 or S-30.

    Harmony and most of the other Chicago builders built many instruments "for the trade" with no labels. That way a retailer or teacher could claim them as their own brand. Some even pasted labels inside.
    "Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them". These are the words of J. Garber.

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    There are remnants of a sticker that have no writing and no stamp that I can see. Thanks for the information on the vintage.

    Eric


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    It was made by Harmony in Chicago circa 1920-30, maybe a little later. Look inside with a flashlight and see if you can see a stamped number that has an F or S in front of it like F-24 or S-30.

    Harmony and most of the other Chicago builders built many instruments "for the trade" with no labels. That way a retailer or teacher could claim them as their own brand. Some even pasted labels inside.

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    Here's an ad where they were being sold at Sears.
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    That is so cool. Where on Earth did you find that Sears catalog? What year is it?

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    The best info currently available online about Albert Shutt can be found here..
    http://www.harpguitars.net/history/s...on-members.htm
    Sorry for your loss...
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    Very Nice depression era mandolin! So these were inspired by Albert Shutt's earlier teens mandolins correct? I believe he was the first one to use F-holes and the elevated fretboard right? Never played one but I sure would play it and ejnoy her!

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    These were built by Harmony, there was some sort of connection but they weren't built by Albert Shutt unless Harmony had him working in the factory. I'm guessing it was a business arrangement of some sort, more of money for a design.

    There is an entire Social Group on the Cafe with vintage catalog pages. When we see them we grab them and I'm not sure of the year of that ad.
    "Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them". These are the words of J. Garber.

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    Harmony did not start date stamping until 1932, so it is probably before that date. Here is another Supertone catalogue from the 1920s. The top is the cheapest- the bottom is the Shutt "Viol" mandolin.


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