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    Default Please help me identify PAT'S OCT 26-86

    Hello I was following a thread on here that showed the same patent and gave me a lot of information. I didn't see any mandolin's with the same body type. Any information is greatly appreciated! It's very dirty next step will be to restore it for my son.
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    Mando-Accumulator Jim Garber's Avatar
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    Default Re: Please help me identify PAT'S OCT 26-86

    My guess is that this is a British-made mandolin-banjo. There may be other experts on British makers here who may be able to tell who made it. There were some vintage British banjo sites but they all seem to be defunct.
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    Default Re: Please help me identify PAT'S OCT 26-86

    Not that this is a direct response, but the OP should be aware that the stamp of "PAT'D OCT. 26-86" is simply the day that the tailpiece design was patented, not when it (or the instrument) was built, and that it refers to the tailpiece alone, not the instrument in general. Yes, that probably means October of 1886, while the instrument itself could be several years (or decades?) newer.

    Such dates on instruments of that era are common, when parts such as tailpieces, bridges, pickguards & clamps, etc. were often bought from outside suppliers AND might each carry their own patent date. It was not unusual for a given instrument to show several dates spanning a 10 year period or more.
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    Default Re: Please help me identify PAT'S OCT 26-86

    As Ed noted that patent date is for the tailpiece and I believe that the tailpiece might have been made in the US whereas the instrument I believe it from the UK or possible another part of Europe. I hve seen that tailpiece on US instruments.
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