E. S. Warren mando

[Gabe S]

Does anyone know about the “Made for ES Warren” mando?

[Seter]

Do you have any pictures of this mandolin? That would help solve the riddle.

[Gabe S]

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[allenhopkins]

A likely explanation is that E S Warren was either a music dealer, or a music teacher, and had the instrument made by an American manufacturer such as Lyon & Healy, Regal etc., to sell in the store or to students.

I don't recognize the tailpiece shape, but the pickguard looks like several shown on Lyon & Healy Washburn instruments. Pre-cut pickguards could be purchased, and used by a number of manufacturers. Otherwise, the instrument resembles many other early 20th-century American-made bowl-backs.

I tried Google searching for "E S Warren music dealer," but without success. Might help if we knew where you found the mandolin; searching in a specific city might be more fruitful.

[brunello97]

Doesn't look much like a Lyon and Healy or Regal product from any of the details large or small.

Certainly not a Larson....

Allen is right though: somebody made it.

Mick

[allenhopkins]

OK, a clue: a Google search reveals -- I think -- an "E S Warren" associated with the Los Angeles Mandolin, Guitar & Banjo Orchestra in an 1897 LA city directory. Here's the page, but you have to buy a membership in Fold3 to get a good look at it. Feel free to "pay to play."

So: an 1890's LA mandolinist, who had an instrument made for himself? Could be.

[Timbofood]

Doesn't look much like a Lyon and Healy or Regal product from any of the details large or small.

Certainly not a Larson....

Allen is right though: somebody made it.

Mick

That just screams “Chester Franklin Martin” to me!
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Have a delightful evening.

[Jim Garber]

Then tailpiece is similar in shape to some that appear on mandolins by Luigi Ricca but that means little since your could buy those from suppliers. It has a rather unusual shape for the neck, esp the "volute" (or whatever you call that lump behind the headstock) and the headstock shape which really doesn't remind me of other makers. Could be someone who only made a few mandolins, maybe a guitar or violin maker.

Usually if it was made for a teacher or music store or studio it would have some details that resemble some of the suppliers rather look more unique. I look to pickguard and headstock shapes, but don't really see anything here that resembles other more know makers.