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    https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...e-a97e00abe2dc

    If someone not on an iPad could find some way of posting an image, I’d be grateful!

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    Do you mean this one?
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    For some reason your link just goes to the main auction site on my computer. Never seen anything like it before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Platt View Post
    Do you mean this one?
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    For some reason your link just goes to the main auction site on my computer. Never seen anything like it before.
    Me too. Can you post a link to that...errr...particular item?
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    The link goes to the sale for me. This is a little bit larger copy of the image. I'm not sure I'd pay anywhere near the auction estimate for that.
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    I managed to find it searching the auction site. Maybe this link will work.

    https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...e-a97e00abe2dc

    At 350€ ($402 US), who knows what will happen.
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    Is that supposed to be something along the line of a Stroh?

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    Thanks for the photo. Both links work for me - perhaps it’s because I’m in Europe?

    Looks to have the bridge mounted on two gramaphone horns; somewhat like a phono-fiddle?

    Thought it mught amuse people!

    It does come with a case and is that a Waverley tailpiece?

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    Link works for me fine, too.

    I think the auction description is plain wrong:

    "Rare Banjolo Musical Instrument, c. 1920 Germany, manufactured by mandolin builder Marcelli in cooperation with gramophone manufacturer Nirona, hexagonal wood body, 2 Nirona soundboxes, 8 strings, in fitted case."

    Almost certainly, neither Marcelli nor Nirona knew this instrument existed: Marcelli were a maker of hardware, and their name is often engraved on tailpieces by many other makers. It's a bit like saying "mandolin by Waverly" for an anonymous vintage mandolin with a cloud tailpiece. Nirona made gramophones. So, somebody cobbled together this mandolin from two Nirona-branded gramophone resonators and a Marcelli tailpiece and presumably a scavenged mandolin neck from somewhere else.

    Here is a Nirona gramophone. Note the bell-shaped resonator looks much like those on the mandolin.

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    Looks cool, but I think it's an amateur concoction.

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    Both links work for me and I'm in the US.
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    Banjolo might be a contraction of banjo and YOLO. If you play that instrument there is a significant danger that someone nearby will simply kill you to make it stop.
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    This link works for me in my browser to take me directly to the item listing. The links above go to the home page of that site.

    For some reason that link does not work here.

    In any case that looks like a strange contraption. Also, the body depth looks really thin.

    Rereading Martin Jonas' post, I think he figured it out. Probably a home-made cobbled-together contraption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    This link works for me in my browser to take me directly to the item listing. The links above go to the home page of that site.

    For some reason that link does not work here.

    In any case that looks like a strange contraption. Also, the body depth looks really thin.
    Link is the same result for me.


    This...errr...instrument reminded me somehow of this...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Moss View Post
    Link is the same result for me.


    This...errr...instrument reminded me somehow of this...


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    Both links work ok for me as well. The URL of the link that Jim Garber posted, is the same as the original that Ray posted. Here's a larger,more detailed pic.

    I suppose that there was some type of reasoning behind building this,but what it might be escapes me - or ''makes a break for it !''.

    The 'bridge' spans the tops of what i think are 2 metal resonant chambers. Unless they're well damped,i can only imagine the sound to be hellish !,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Kelsall View Post
    The 'bridge' spans the tops of what i think are 2 metal resonant chambers. Unless they're well damped,i can only imagine the sound to be hellish !
    Without wanting to defend the design unduly, that principle at least is much the same as the bridge used by John Dopyera for his original tricone design:

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    Which raises the question as to whether this one predates Dopyera's 1927 design or not...

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    It looks like somebody put a couple of hubcaps on a stop sign . . . . .

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    At first I thought it was a barometer and thermometer that looked like an instrument!


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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidKOS View Post
    At first I thought it was a barometer and thermometer that looked like an instrument!

    It does have a vaguely nautical look to it.
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