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    A couple of months ago, Cafe members pointed me in the direction of a 1939 Walker Turner 16 in. bandsaw. Since then, I've been working on getting it cleaned and set up properly. James Condino (grandcanyonminstrel) has been gracious enough to spend a lot of time giving me direction on getting this old saw in working order. (Thank you, James!).

    As a byproduct of this restoration project, I've developed a pretty serious obsession with these old woodworking machines. I started this thread for two reasons: (1) to have a place to document the restoration of the Walker Turner Bandsaw, and (2) to shamelessly solicit pictures of y'all's old woodworking machines. Giant bandsaws, old heavy table saws, jointers, planers, shapers, motors, rusted, painted, broken, whatever.

    So, let's see what you've got.

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    One of my favorite parts of the restoration thus far, has been restoring the badge to its original color. A prior owner stripped the original badge and painted it dark green. Luckily the badge had raised lettering, so it was just a matter of stripping the old paint, spraying a coat of paint over the entire surface, then using a razor to scrape the raised areas.

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    Looks like you're off to a good start.

    Perks of my day job... spent a whole summer restoring this:
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    That is seriously cool, Marty.

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    Since average folks can no longer afford the most desirable models of vintage cars and instruments, my entire workshop has turned into a vintage tool museum. Here are just a couple of examples:

    1940s Walker Turner 16" bandsaw

    1940 Yates Y30 bandsaw with "snowflake" covers

    1940s Emmert vise

    1953 Delta Unisaw

    1947 Delta sander

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    James, the Art Deco styling on the WT and the two Deltas is killer. What's the story on the Emmert Vise? I hadn't heard of them, but a quick google search indicates they're highly sought after.

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    Marty, here's my old South Bend 13". Not restored by any means. That one is mighty nice. What is the swing on it? Walt sweet job on the badge. James I'm still drooling over seeing your old machines.

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    Oh, by the way, that's my Dad in the picture. we both could use some restoration.

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ID:	170509. I want this Scroll saw!
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    I’ve been drooling over this Nuevoish scroll saw for years. Matt. Back in the real world I’m trying to get a tremor shake out of my beater Rigid cut anything band saw. I realigned the motor to the drive pulley, replaced the drive wheel bearings and replaced the tires. All that is left is balancing or replacing the drive wheel. Any suggestions welcome cafe builders. Click image for larger version. 

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    There's an old Oliver at the Savannah Roundhouse museum. Cast iron frame, oak wheels, not a guard in sight. Wish I could find the picture I took of it last time I was there.

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    Hank, that scroll saw is intense. I'd love to find a video of that thing in action.

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    I'm waiting on blades to come in, so I decided to do some rough polishing on the handles. I think a lathe is the proper tool for this, right? I don't have one, so I (very carefully) spun the handle on my cordless drill and used progressively finer sandpaper to polish. I didn't get aggressive enough to remove all of the pitting, but for the most part it shined up nicely.

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    I just sold this old Walker Turner lathe a couple of months ago when I brought home a giant old Oliver patternmaker's lathe.

    About 35 years ago, an old Crescent adjustable tilt "shipbuilders" bandsaw like this one was my first introduction to old iron.....
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    I have actually been looking for one of those deco Walker Turner lathes ever since I saw one in the old WT catalog. I'd actually like to collect all of the deco-base WT tools at some point. Well, lo and behold this one popped up on the OWWM forum.

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    Unfortunately, it was in Northern Ontario. But amazingly I managed to line up a rucker from Canada to ArnFest to Jackson, MS. So I should have it in a few weeks.
    It was only $50, but it needs a tremendous amount of work. Looking forward to getting to work on it.

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    I used to have one of those Walker Turner lathes. It was great. Does it have a tapered pulley in the box?

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    I used to have one of those Walker Turner lathes. It was great. Does it have a tapered pulley in the box?
    Dale, it did at one time (seller called it a Reeves drive???); however, it was removed at some point. I'm not sure whether I want to wait to find one, or just install a VFD to control the speed.

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    Walt- notice a pattern here??? You've got the old machinery lust setting in pretty hard. It is a whole lot easier lusting after and bringing home old iron than expensive old mandolins...It is nice that the old machines are super affordable, unlike old instruments these days.

    I almost bought that lathe! $50 is a great price; I paid ten times that for a rusted out unrestored shell.....

    Those era Walker Turner lathes have a 1 x 12 tpi spindle / faceplate as original spec and a very odd bearing and spindle setup with difficult to find faceplates.

    In the '50s, Walker Turner was bought out by Delta, they dropped the relationship with the funky bearing supplier, and for a few years Delta used the same head casting with different more standard bearings. For about $50, you should be able to find a Delta 1460 head with the pulleys and spindle. They are a direct replacement for the Walker Turner setup- even the bearings pop into the same fitting. In about 45 minutes time, you can convert the whole thing to the Delta setup. That will give you easy to find bearings and the common 1x8 spindle and faceplate- probably the most common size around. 1 x 12 tpi faceplates tend to be $50-85; 1 x 8 can be had for as little as $7. Afterwards, you can usually sell off the Walker Turner head and spindle parts for more that you paid for the 1460 parts.

    The reeves drive that it came with is nice, but you'll find it a lot better driver if you find a three phase motor and then use a variable frequency drive for speed control.

    I made a lot of money using that Walker Turner lathe in my shop for several years. Earlier this year I was able to sell it off and bring home a giant Oliver 20 patternmaker's lathe for about $150 more.

    Now you need a nice old Walker Turner drill press to round out the lathe and bandsaw; that was my "gateway tool"- purchased from the original owner & still have it as a daily driver for almost 20 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandcanyonminstrel View Post
    It is a whole lot easier lusting after and bringing home old iron than expensive old mandolins...It is nice that the old machines are super affordable, unlike old instruments these days.
    I know, it's crazy how affordable this stuff is. And that whole "rucker" network they have set up on OWWM forum is incredible too: the seller is transporting it from Ontario to Chicago, and another OWWM enthusiast is taking it from Chicago to Mississippi. And every time I ask them to give me a price they say "We're just happy to help." I'm going to insist on paying them something, but in theory I could have gotten this thing for $50 (price and shipping from Canada).

    Thanks for the info on the Delta parts. That seems like the way to go.

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    In an hilarious turn of events, the seller was turned away at the Canadian border. Because he was carrying a load of equipment, customs said he was operating as a commercial venture without the proper paperwork. This is something that neither the seller (a Canadian) nor I (a transactional attorney and idiot) contemplated beforehand. So, no lathe for now, but I still have my eyes out for one.

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    I could make a political statement right now, but I've decided it might violate forum guidelines.

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    Violate them ! It needs to be said!

    He got refused at the border crossing for bringing a pickupload of broken old tools down to Arnfest this weekend??? WTF......

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    I've had this one for a while but I finally set it up so I can use it!
    I don't know the year it was made, it is a Crescent 12" jointer. I put a mandolin top blank on the table for perspective, and to show that a 12" jointer is easily capable of flattening the surface of a mandolin top or back while it is still well over it's eventual 10" width. (I just made the jointer guard in the last couple of days.)
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ID:	171836Nice one John. Here is another old industrial scroll saw that was refurbished by one of the vintage machine members. The label is the furniture factory logo that closed making the saw available for sale.
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