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    I wouldn't want to own any instrument with finish issues like that. They'd be the first thing i'd see every time i opened the case - & that's not how it should be. Frankly,unless they're heavily discounted,i'm amazed that a store would accept them that way !,
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    I used to have a Eastman 815v that had an average amount scroll work, and while it wasn't perfect it was no where near as bad as those pics
    I also noticed that second picture of the scroll has wood binding, which Eastman only uses on their 900 series which is the highest model that they make
    Also on a side note, those pictures of the scrolls, has anyone else seen a Eastman with that red of a finish? just wondering.

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    I've got the 915v not a perfect finish by any standard but it sounds and plays superbly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerusalem Ridge View Post
    has anyone else seen a Eastman with that red of a finish? just wondering.
    Those definitely aren't reference-grade white-balanced photos. Just from my phone. I don't recall it being super red.

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    Having watched this thread with interest, I pulled out my 815 and looked closely at it. I have to say that my detail work is much nicer than the photos above. I should have done this several days ago, however my Pava is receiving most of my pickin time.
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    These are definitely not typical. Of course, they are not normally perfect inside the scroll or up under the fingerboard, but these seem to be more the extreme cases for whatever reason. The worst offender there, seems to have maple binding. With that and the color, I would guess that to be an old 915. They shouldn't have made that anytime recently. Current Eastman's are the best they have ever been. Pretty much without exception, Eastman has the cleanest workmanship of anything near their price point.

    Here are some of my pics. No trick Photography or photoshopping here.. This is natural light with a mid-range sony camera. Mandolins are recent examples and what happened to be around at the time, no cherry picking going on for the photos. I imagine each of these have some degree of these issues, but overall, I would say they are clean mandolins with good fit and finish.

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    I have an Eastman 515, and the fit and finish around the scroll, and overall is near flawless.
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    Any company can make mistakes; what bothers me is that the Eastman quality control let them through.

    Of course, they could have been wholesaled as "B stock," and the dealer could be asking the regular price. Pretty sure Eastman only sends "B stock" instruments to dealers they've had extensive business with; they'd probably "pull the pin" on any dealer selling "B stock" Eastman instruments at regular market price.
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    The longer I build, the less critical I am of other builders' work. I'd say you can find mistakes in all builds. Not that they're bad, but rather our expectations have increased. I'm pretty sure brand new Loars weren't up to many of our standards.

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    Thats as rough as guts.
    That looks like something I would do.

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    In fairness (and to avoid confirmation bias) I took a photo of a friend's 1975 Gibson F-5. No idea which model but the fretboard inlay is fancy... not just a dot so I'm guessing it was one of the nicer models?

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    Default Re: Eastman Quality: You Be the Judge [pics]

    Quote Originally Posted by fscotte View Post
    I'm pretty sure brand new Loars weren't up to many of our standards.
    ...the pic i posted earlier was indeed a Loar...

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    Bruce, don't forget that even the less carefully built Loar F-5's (with very few exceptions) still show the "style". Workmanship may not be perfect but overall nice perhaps showing some toolmarks, much like old violins. But those in OP are just butchered sloppy finish with no "style" to start with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladyssolo View Post
    i too might let it slide if i loved the sound, but also i have better fit and finish on my old $200 the loar!
    Quote Originally Posted by spruce View Post
    well, some of those $200 loars can be pretty funky too...

    Quote Originally Posted by spruce View Post
    ...the pic i posted earlier was indeed a loar...

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    Sorry, I'm confused. The first post above was referring to modern day "The Loar" brand mandolins I think. It looked like the second post was also referring to those modern Loars. But now it seems from the third post that the second post picture is of a Gibson mandolin actually made during the Lloyd Loar era (early 1920s)???

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    My MD 805 custom performer is finished to perfection. I would not buy a model that looks like that, no matter how great it sounds, but I'm really picky--it has to be perfect for me to part with my money.

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    I just received a lightly used 515 today that I purchased from Elderly. I am extremely impressed with the fit and finish as well as it's tone and volume. I can find no fault with the setup either. I could not be happier. A local luthier cautioned me about Eastman having some inconsistency issues but buying through Elderly took that out of play. I had found a new "B" stock 515 for the same money elsewhere online but elected to buy a used one described as excellent condition. The only thing standing between it and "mint" is a tiny chip ( <1mm in size) and some slight rubbing on the back. Now I just need to practice, practice, practice, up, down, up, down...
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    I purchased an MD415-GD and have had a problem with the finish where my hand touches the neck. It is becomes soft and forms into a glob on the back of the neck. Eastman has replaced it and the new one seems like it will be the same. I played it for about ten minutes and the finish is starting to get dull, soft and tacky right where my thumb rests by the second fret. I have been playing guitars for 40+ years and never had this problem. I haven't heard of anyone else having this problem with this model. I'm thinking maybe I should try another model? I don't know what to do at this point. Other than that I love the way it plays and sounds!

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    Default Re: Eastman Quality: You Be the Judge [pics]

    Quote Originally Posted by jesserules View Post
    But now it seems from the third post that the second post picture is of a Gibson mandolin actually made during the Lloyd Loar era (early 1920s)???
    Yep...
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