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    Default Cross picking in Bb position

    Anyone have any tips of wisdom on cross picking in Bb position they would like to share?
    B, C and even in Gm I've done some before but Bb is giving me some trouble.

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    Default Re: Cross picking in Bb position

    Are you looking for a particular crosspicked melody or some Bb shapes to work off of?

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    Default Re: Cross picking in Bb position

    Some shapes to work off of.
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    Default Re: Cross picking in Bb position

    I don't see why you wouldn't work out of the same positions as B and C. The thing about cross picking as well as any roll just about any note can be the drone for the third note of the roll.

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    Default Re: Cross picking in Bb position

    Easily said than done.
    For some reason Bb is just not clicking yet. I can play up the neck in Bb but rather have a deeper tone.
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    Default Re: Cross picking in Bb position

    3-0-1 for a full major tonality
    1-0-3 for a dom 7, with an added 9
    0-0-1 for a 6th sound
    0-1-1 for the 4 chord
    2-1-3 for the 5 chord

    those are just a few

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    Default Re: Cross picking in Bb position

    Why are you crosspicking in Bb?

    Bb is for jazz! (unless you use a capo)

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    Default Re: Cross picking in Bb position

    Bluegrass, Jazz,
    Whatever, I just play mandolin..... I like to spice it up a little while nodding to tradition and keeping the medley in place.

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    Default Re: Cross picking in Bb position

    Exploit the open D string (the third of Bb)!

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    If by crosspicking you mean some pattern across the strings then I guess it's possible to at least outline chords. But if by crosspicking you mean something like Jesse McReynolds did then I'm not sure it's possible. Either the first or second string will be the highest note of the roll and neither are in the key of Bb. At least that's my understanding of it, and it's the way I try to do it.

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    Default Re: Cross picking in Bb position

    I would ask Jordan Ramsey. He's on this forum and is a McReynolds-style crosspicking expert.

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    Default Re: Cross picking in Bb position

    Quote Originally Posted by ampyjoe View Post
    If by crosspicking you mean some pattern across the strings then I guess it's possible to at least outline chords. But if by crosspicking you mean something like Jesse McReynolds did then I'm not sure it's possible. Either the first or second string will be the highest note of the roll and neither are in the key of Bb. At least that's my understanding of it, and it's the way I try to do it.
    The drone doesn't have to be in the chord. Listen to any bluegrass banjo player and break down what they are doing. That's the beauty of a roll. The hard part on a mandolin is keeping the drone out of the melody. We don't have a thumb string to drone. Yes I know some banjo players note ( read change the tone of) the thumb string but it is for a certain effect. I don't think Earl did and almost sure Ralph didn't, so it doesn't have to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandoplumb View Post
    The drone doesn't have to be in the chord. Listen to any bluegrass banjo player and break down what they are doing. That's the beauty of a roll. The hard part on a mandolin is keeping the drone out of the melody. We don't have a thumb string to drone. Yes I know some banjo players note ( read change the tone of) the thumb string but it is for a certain effect. I don't think Earl did and almost sure Ralph didn't, so it doesn't have to be.
    Yes, it's true that the drone note doesn't have to be in the chord. In the key of D for example it's E note and mostly sounds fine. But my point about the key of Bb is that the drone string is not only not in the chord, it's also not in the key, nor is it a 7th, so it doesn't work (to my ears).

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    Default Re: Cross picking in Bb position

    Cross picking ,it's a strange thing though,how mandolin players make fun of banjo players,,and yet want to emulate and sound like one.

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