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    Hey folks, recently purchased an Ingles violin stand after seeing great reviews here on the site. Its a nice piece of kit and I feel confident leaving my instrument on it during practices and services. I play primarily in church, and always plugged in to the onboard pup. My issue is that when I am plugged in the cable sticks out too far, hitting the ground, and the mando won't sit into the stand. Frustrating. So far I've placed it at the edge of a stage lip so the cable hangs over the edge. My heart is in my throat the whole time about it falling. I don't want to use an angled plug as I've replaced several acoustic guitar endpin jacks because of damage from those plugs over time (torsion damage mostly, one from being pulled out by the cable by an inexperienced sound guy ). The mando is an Eastman 605, if it matters.

    Anyone else have this problem? Any solutions that worked for you? I want the mando as close to the ground as possible, and plugging/unplugging to the case is not an option during services.
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    Cables with a right-angle plug are the smart thing to use. I am always unnerved to see straight plugs sticking out of the endpin of a guitar or mandolin. It's damage waiting to happen.

    Taylor's right-angle cable with the included volume control is handy. I like George L cables, mainly the thinner type (1/8"). The right-angle plug is really small and discreet. Great on violins, especially, which is why I started using them.
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    A muting pedal would allow you to isolate it so it could be unplugged without issues downstream.
    You'd just stomp on the pedal as you finish then pop the connector once done.
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    Really?? Right angle cable. I'm surprised. I've had nothing but trouble with those on acoustic instruments so far. When they are in the stand they hang so unevenly. That unnerves me. Do you suggest running the cable from a angled plug up and behind the strap, as you would on an electric or bass?
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    Hello Brian, have you considered the angled ZZYZX Snap Jack cables? They have magnetic connectors, so that they can easily be disconnected, I believe that they are designed to do this without banging and popping. I have one that I used to use in an electric band. You could either disconnect it when you put it in the stand, or use the angled connector and hopefully the magnetic connection would break first if there was any danger of damage. I'm not sure if they are available in the U.S. though.
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    I always use good (switchcraft) angle plugs. It allows the cord to hang straight down when playing. I never use a stand anymore after having a few instruments damaged when on them. It's either playing or case for me. A mute on your preamp or some kind of mute allows you to unplug to go on a stand so you don't have to worry, it also means if someone trips on the cord it won't pull your instrument over.
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    Beanzy, the mute pedal is not a bad idea. Thanks for that.

    Rob, how have I never heard of these? A bit pricey, but peace of mind usually is. How do you find their sound and durability? Obviously plugged in I know I will never have the most pristine sound, but its nice to consider such things. Durability is hopefully high with the cost being what it is.

    Thanks all for the quick input so far!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Sullivan View Post
    Rob, how have I never heard of these? A bit pricey, but peace of mind usually is. How do you find their sound and durability? Obviously plugged in I know I will never have the most pristine sound, but its nice to consider such things. Durability is hopefully high with the cost being what it is.
    I haven't used them in anger for a while, but from memory they very well made, and the magnets were strong. I would occasionally "snap" the jack accidentally by treading on it, but I suppose that was partly the point: the jack disconnected rather than damaging the instrument! As for sound, I was never very good at hearing the subtle differences between bits of electrical equipment, but I never had any complaints from other band members!
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    You can also get a plug with a switch that shorts out the input like your amp when you unplug it. Keeps it from making any noise so you can unplug to change instruments or just unplug silently. I still have one from long ago, but never used them much. I haven't seen the magnetic ones for a while and forgot about them.
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    Spectra flex uses quality ends, one is 90 degree, if your troubles are not with the wire itself ,

    you can always solder on a different cable end.


    i have seen the snap jack in use, hot swapped between players.

    magnet sticks the cable to the mic stand, then the plug in the instrument
    was handed to the next player, who plugged it in , then re connected the magnet
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    I use a gibson cable that has a slider on the plug. silent when unplugged. I swap instruments and hated diddling with volumes

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    The cheap way to do the job is to use pipe insulation on the stand lower arms. The standard tube type. It will raise the mandolin higher and the jack will clear the ground. It works for me.

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