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    can any help out with the melody to friend of the devil and cumberland blues

    or any other dead tunes.

    i have the chords, but i am terrible at trying to figure out the melody. thanks for your help

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    Will you spring a little $ for some books? All the tunes from American Beauty and Workingman's Dead are published in one book; that will have the two you are looking for. There's another one with all the Wake of the Flood and Blue for Allah tunes. There's also an anthology with a cross section of studio and live tunes.
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    'I lit out from Reno, I was trailed by twenty hounds.
    Didn't get to sleep last night till the morning came around.'

    Can you hear me singing? There's the tune.

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    Check out http://www.rukind.com/

    Lots of chord charts and tabs for GD
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    Arches F4 / Newson F5
    Crump B1 / Old Wave GOM

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    Hey edawg the licks for Friend are the G major scale, a little walk up and then descending.

    Hope that helps.

    If you need a chord progression let me know, I'll type it out.

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    edawg; If you have the CD/LP/Tape... sit down and work through the tunes one section at a time. It's a good way to learn the tune and a great way to familiarize yourself with your instrument.

    kvk; Is the American Beauty/Workingman's book in print again? I remember seeing it 20+ years ago and tried to find it about 5 years ago, but it looked like it was unavailable or out or print. I ended up with the 2nd Anthology which filled in what wasn't in the 1st Anthology.

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    I have a couple versions of FOD. I also have Ripple, Uncle John's Band and one other I can't remember offhand. I'd post them, but I don't know what the copyright issues would be. They're just the basic melody line. You would need to embellish them.

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    I learned Grisman's mando runs from the American Beauty version of Ripple for a friend's wedding years ago. It became one of my favorite tunes to sing and play on guitar or mando. It also became one of my "lullabyes" when my kids were babies. It's worth listening to what Grisman did on Friend Of The Devil too, and Uncle John's Band is fun to mando-noodle on as well.

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    FOD is a part of the Bluegrass Fakebook. As far as the others, I have no idea.

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    There was a band, led by Jerry Garcia from the Grateful Dead, called "Old and in the Way." This was an excellent bluegrass band with thick mandolin, fiddle, and banjo parts in all their songs. Jerry Garcia played the mando and banjo, quite well I might add. If you like bluegrass, you should check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (csstanley @ June 03 2005, 21:01)
    FOD is a part of the Bluegrass Fakebook. As far as the others, I have no idea.
    Yeah, that just popped into my head too. "Bluegrass Fakebook" by Bert Casey. It's well worth having around if you can read enough to understand a simple melody in notation. It's got lead line, chords, and lyrics to 150 songs. Some traditional standards but also modern copyrighted stuff that you won't find in public domain. I know FotD is on it as is Panama Red and others. You might recognize the traditional tunes "Dark Hollow" and "Rain and Snow" although R&S is the old-time version in Dm, not the R&R GD -style version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (Zeppelinman @ June 04 2005, 03:46)
    There was a band, led by Jerry Garcia from the Grateful Dead, called "Old and in the Way." This was an excellent bluegrass band with thick mandolin, fiddle, and banjo parts in all their songs. Jerry Garcia played the mando and banjo, quite well I might add. If you like bluegrass, you should check it out.

    http://www.amazon.com/exec....8262252
    That was Jerry, David Dawg Grishman, John Kahn and Vassar Clements. And they were AWESOME. They did a bunch of cover tunes with a bluegrass spin.

    If ya liked the Dead, you'd like these guys together.

    From what I've learned, Jerry's roots were in folk and Old Time music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (csstanley @ June 05 2005, 08:43)
    That was Jerry, David Dawg Grishman, John Kahn and Vassar Clements. #
    And Peter Rowan on guitar and vocals. I think the Dawg sang one tune (Old and in the Way, from which the band took its name). I don't think I've ever heard him sing other than that track!

    The engineer was Owsley Stanley, if that name rings any bells with those of you that claim to remember the sixties...
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    Grisman has sung baritone in many trios over the course of his bluegrass career. He also sang lead on "I'm My Own Grandpa" off the Home is Where the Heart Is record and "Till The End of the World Rolls Around" off the Here Today record, in addition to the tune you cite above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (Billiam @ June 05 2005, 10:45)
    The engineer was Owsley Stanley, if that name rings any bells with those of you that claim to remember the sixties...
    So he's the one I blame. And to boot, he may be kin to me.

    Or would that be the one's that played a little layer and didn't know what they were doing?

    He found the right people in Jerry and Bob to help him out.

    Of course, you can't have a Dead Thread without a drug talk.




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    Quote Originally Posted by (csstanley @ June 05 2005, 08:43)
    From what I've learned, Jerry's roots were in folk and Old Time music.
    If you go over to www.furthurnet.org, There's some ancient JG shows from the very early sixties. (there's also a lot of OaitW) Here's some set lists to give you an idea--


    Wildwood Boys
    02/23/63
    Top of The Tangent Palo Alto, CA

    audience master reel->reel->FM->cassette->DAT->CD

    Jarry Garcia - guitar, banjo, vocals
    David Nelson - guitar
    Robert Hunter - bass, guitar
    Norm Van Mastricht - bass, guitar, dobro

    1. Introductions [0:47]
    2. Rollin' In My Sweet Babys Arms [4:05]
    3. Jerry's Breakdown [2:25]
    4. Standing In The Need Of Prayer [3:06]
    5. Muleskinner Blues [3:50]
    6. Guitar Instrumental [3:25]
    7. Pike County Breakdown [2:53]
    8. Come All Ye Fair And Tender Maidens [4:13]
    9. We Shall Not Be Moved [3:17]

    DAT->CD and wav.->.shn conversions by Scott Mogol <smogol@intr.net>
    upped by Gary King and his mighty DSL



    June 11, 1962
    Sleepy Valley Hogstompers
    Jewish Community Center
    San Carlos, CA

    Jerry Garcia - Guitar and Banjo
    Marshall Leicester - Banjo and Guitar
    Dick Arnold - Fiddle

    This performance took place at the 'new' Boar's Head Coffeehouse; relocated in the San Carlos Jewish Community Center.

    All will fit on one CD

    Set I

    1. Chuck a Little Hill
    2. Billy Grimes
    3. Cannonball Blues
    4. Devilish Mary
    5. Buck Dancer's Choice
    6. Little Birdie
    7. Sally Goodun
    8. Hold the Woodpile Down

    Set II
    9. Crow Black Children
    10. Johnson Boys
    11. Shady Grove
    12. Uncle Joe
    13. Sweet Sunny South
    14. Hungry Hash House
    15. Man of Constant Sorrow
    16. Yonder He Goes
    17. Three Went A-Hunting



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    Thanks. Those are some good stuffins.

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    I know that Grisman sings in "Jenny Jenkins" and "'Cept Old Bill" or whatever the name of that song is with Sam Bush on the Hold on we're strumming cd.
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    There's a new "Dick's Picks" out (#35) with material from summer 1971. There's a funny story about how Keith G. was given a bunch of master soundboard tapes in 1971 by Garcia who said "learn our music". Then the family apparently came across these same (previously considered lost) tapes spring 2005 when cleaning out his houseboat in Alameda, California.
    Anyone else see any Phil Lesh and Friends perormances this year?

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    phil hasn't really done the east coast for a spell.

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    "Pickin' On The Dead" is a good CD. I stole part of my break from that version.

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    phil is doing an east coast run this fall, I believe.....

    He IS playing Saint Louis in November.....straight from the horse's mouth

    "the lost tapes"
    Jerry gave Keith a few sounboard shows (ONLY COPIES!) to learn the material...he listened to them maybe once and they were forgotten about..skip ahead, his son finds them and we have a new treasure trove of lost dead goodies



    and if anyone wants to send me any tabs, chords, or any dead related mando stuff...PLEASE DO!!!!

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    rambled through mandozine's contents....

    found a tabledit file for Uncle John's band.....

    If anyone is interested, check it out, blast to play, at least for a head like me

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    Quote Originally Posted by (GnomeGrown @ July 25 2005, 12:16)
    rambled through mandozine's contents....

    found a tabledit file for Uncle John's band.....

    If anyone is interested, check it out, blast to play, at least for a head like me
    That's a cool Tabledit file. Indeed the Uncle John's Band of the Grateful Dead. I think the song is an original Garcia/Robert Hunter tune, but it is listed as "traditional". Which is correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by (berkeleymando @ July 25 2005, 23:47)
    Quote Originally Posted by (GnomeGrown @ July 25 2005, 12:16)
    rambled through mandozine's contents....

    found a tabledit file for Uncle John's band.....

    If anyone is interested, check it out, blast to play, at least for a head like me
    That's a cool Tabledit file. Indeed the Uncle John's Band of the Grateful Dead. I think the song is an original Garcia/Robert Hunter tune, but it is listed as "traditional". Which is correct?
    One that I found said that Hunter wrote it and Garcia did the music score.

    Who knows?

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