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    I hope I'm posting this in the right section … I'm new to this site and relatively new to the instrument. Playing the mandolin since seven months now and I'm absolutely in love with it! Now I've upgraded - earlier than i planned to - from my Rover RM-50 to a Kentucky KM-855. Went to the shop, played it for two hours and just couldn't leave without it …
    I'm really really enjoying my new mandolin. The only thing I miss: The E-String seems to be really quiet compared to the other strings. On my Rover I always loved the high pitched ringing of the E-string, although it was quite uncontrollable and buzzy at times. The Kentucky sounds lovely on the bass and medium range side, but to get this nice ring, I've really got to make an effort. Might have to do with my low-level-skills, but is there a way to “boost” the E-string? I'm going to take the mandolin to the shop again for a free “second setup” anyway, but I'm hoping to get some advice here, too …
    Thanks for welcoming me into the mandocafé community! Sorry if my English is not that good - I live in Berlin (also not really Bluegrass homeland, luckily enough I found a great teacher ...).
    All the best from Germany!
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    There you go.
    And if that does not help, you could try a pair of E strings from a heavier set of strings (if you get them up to pitch without breaking, that is, depending on scale length); but it is a compromise at best, because most mandolins are either strong in bass or strong in treble, but not both.
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    Could be a set up issue or the bridge might benefit from being fitted better.
    But always always always start with a new set of strings.

    Good luck!
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    Okay. I'll play...

    Category is: "Famous Bluegrass Song"

    _ e _ _ _ _ _ e _ _ _ _ _ e

    Seriously though, you could experiment with different string sizes, as stated above. You can purchase "single strings" at (Just Strings.com). NFI, but, they are a sponsor of this site, as well.

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    I would go with Bertram's advice and start with a string change. It defiantly can be a setup issue as well.
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    Not a lot of options on E strings ... .09, .10, .11 basically. Coated may be an option but iirc that's only done on the wound strings (?) More importantly you might try different picks! That can make a big difference.

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    Try a pick made out of some kind of harder material, picks that make the wound strings sound good some times kill the unwound strings, trying different strings and picks is something that all of have gone through and it takes time to get the right combination...

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    Thank you all so much!!!! I'll let the people at the shop try with a different E-string. So the higher the string gauge the louder the tone?
    I use the Wegen M100 which I like a lot, but now I have a reason to do some more pick testing...

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    Bleckberry Blossem? *german accent off*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadji36 View Post
    Okay. I'll play...

    Category is: "Famous Bluegrass Song"

    _ e _ _ _ _ _ e _ _ _ _ _ e
    Jerusalem Ridge

    But strictly speaking, it's not a "song" -- it's an instrumental tune.

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    If you can get D'addario singles there, try a pair of the LE0115 on the E. Or you can buy the medium/heavy set that they come with EJ75.
    I'm betting that the strings on there are just old. My E strings seem to go dead faster than the rest.

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    I like the EXP74CM's which give you the heavier A and E from the 75s but the normal G and D from the 74 set. I just bought a few from Strings and Beyond. My first purchase with them and it was cheaper that the other site I had been using, plus a 10% discount popped up.
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    Thank you all for the great advice. I'll talk with the guys in the shop about just replacing the E string or going for the EXP74CM "mixed" package. I sure hope a mandolin like this should support heavier strings. And I'll definitely try the dunlop primetone...

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    If you watch the D'Addario promo video for the EXP74CM set, Chris Thile describes wanting those specific string gauges for basically the same reason you're talking about. After comparing similar Primetone and Wegen picks yesterday, I think the strings will help more than the pick swap. Primetones are relatively inexpensive, though, so definitely try them out.

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    That mandolin should have no problem supporting medium-heavy strings, at least in the gauges as discussed above. I've tried as heavy as .11 o n my KM 675 without issue...actually, that mando really likes that EJ75 set (or maybe it was exp 75?)...Good luck!
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    Just to give you some feedback ... Well, the D'Addario EXP74CM did the trick! Just - wow!!!! Didn't think strings could make such a big difference! It's like having a different instrument ... Not that it was bad before, but it's a lot more balanced now. Thanks to y'all!
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    Had the same experience with a mando. When I switched to .0115" Es, it took care of it. Glad it worked for you, also.

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    I find when my e string sounds thin, I have wandered toward the bridge with my pick, out of the sweet spot. It is a habit I'm trying to break. When I get back to correct spot, things fatten up.

    I'm also going to fatter picks. Right now I'm liking a Gypsey Jazz from Wegen. A thick pick and a loose grip is giving me a better tone.

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    Looks like your question was already answered so I just want to add that your English is excellent. Better, alas, than that of many Americans I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Bowsman View Post
    Had the same experience with a mando. When I switched to .0115" Es, it took care of it. Glad it worked for you, also.
    I too have switched to 11.5 e string and it solved my problem . I've almost always used j74s but never really liked the weak e. I tried the ej74cm set, but the coated strings sound different to me and I didn't really like the thicker a string. So I bought a bunch of single 11.5 strings and am back to the j74 set with the 11.5 e added. It's pretty perfect to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sanderson View Post
    I too have switched to 11.5 e string and it solved my problem . I've almost always used j74s but never really liked the weak e. I tried the ej74cm set, but the coated strings sound different to me and I didn't really like the thicker a string. So I bought a bunch of single 11.5 strings and am back to the j74 set with the 11.5 e added. It's pretty perfect to me.
    Have you considered adding an .016 A as in the EJ75 set to create essentially an uncoated version of the EXP74CM's?
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    Here's another happy German camper on 74CMs.
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    Hi Pit, danke and greetings to Cologne! Great to be in good 74CM company...

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    I had to order more strings yesterday (using EXP74CM for mandolin and EXP16 for guitar), needed two sets of each, and I shopped around quite a bit. Best price was with Elderly, who had Strings & Beyond beat since I was ordering multiple sets. Just offering this info for the online shoppers in case anyone is interested. I added items to carts at many sites to determine for certain where to get my savings, and Elderly got most of my business yesterday.
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    I have a set of EXP75s to install, but the EJs won't quit. My hands are absurdly dry, which sucks for everything except prolonged string life.

    Part of me wishes it was easier to make custom mando sets to experiment, but the D'Addario stock sets are pretty good as is, and not worth the extra cost or hassle to modify.

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