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    Came across a copy of the police report from the vandalism to Bill's mandolins. Not sure if it has been posted here before. I thought it was interesting. Note Lloyd Loar is called "Floyd Lord"..
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    Dear old Floyd, he was pretty cool.

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    Classic. Years ago I had a cafe member that doesn't come around anymore give me details that he said were missing from that report. According to him a small safe was found down the road that was taken from the Monroe home. I would think that would have been noticed. Thanks for posting this. It could already be on the Cafe but I don't recall ever seeing it.

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    Mike,
    That is Floyd Lord. He was truly the master acoustic engineer for Givson.

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    Were the intruders caught ?

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    Were the intruders caught ?
    No one was ever formally accused in this matter as far as I know. There are/were some informal accusations but for the 'rest of the story' we have to wait for f5loar to chime in. And as far as I know, he ain't talkin'.

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    Everybody has talked as to who they thought it was. The gentleman I alluded to has said they were all wrong and therein lies the mystery. If we all knew for sure there wouldn't even be a story here. Charlie Derrington would have never had to put it back together and that mandolin over in the Country Music Hall of Fame would still be famous just not quite as famous.
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    Another cool thing is where it mentions that Bill was at Mason's that day. I work close by and have eaten there many times (it is now Ruby's). I didn't know he frequented the place. I'm going to tell them to put up a poster or something.
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    I'd have them print out the police report, frame it and post it.
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    I wonder if that is the same Ruby that owned the bar in Va where Bill used to play and stay when he as in the area, I do know she was a good friend of Bill`s....Read what you like into that...

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    Did anyone else think it was interesting that the police officer made a point to say that the photo of Bill's brother was unharmed?

    "Poker holes were stabbed through a picture of Bill Monroe on the living room wall. Right beside that was a picture of Mr. Monroe's brother, which was not harmed."
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    I just know what's in the book and find this police report interesting.

    Now, I'm curious what makes F5Loar so well connected to the Monroe incident? I do know he's quite the expert on Loar mandolins though!

    (loving a good mystery.)

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    This is a fascinating document. As these thing go, it's a pretty darned good read. How did you find this? Is it a matter of public record? However, thanks for posting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatt-dad View Post
    I just know what's in the book and find this police report interesting.

    Now, I'm curious what makes F5Loar so well connected to the Monroe incident? I do know he's quite the expert on Loar mandolins though!

    (loving a good mystery.)

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    Here's a link to a 12 yr. old thread: http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/sh...being-vandalzd

    Interesting discussion.

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    I think this is what they call grand mal vandalism in the legal biz or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by journeybear View Post
    This is a fascinating document. As these thing go, it's a pretty darned good read. How did you find this? Is it a matter of public record? However, thanks for posting it.
    It was shared with me by a friend that found it doing some research. I got the impression it is a public record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLATROCK HILL View Post
    Here's a link to a 12 yr. old thread: http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/sh...being-vandalzd

    Interesting discussion.
    I knew I was in that discussion, under my old account name now gone. Hysterical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmarkva View Post
    It was shared with me by a friend that found it doing some research. I got the impression it is a public record.
    It is. Anyone with any ability to search public records could probably find it. I just did a quick search on Ancestry.com and it didn't fly up but a deeper public records search probably would have found it.
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    Well, I found this. Does anybody see mention of a small safe in that police report? There goes that theory. I think I still have the PM's that went with all this but there's no sense in posting them. The police report is what it is and what was said was in there isn't. Pretty much the end of that story.
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    I tend to agree that 'stabbing' the mandolins rather than simply 'smashing' them a la the recent Martin guitar fiasco,takes on a very 'personal' sort of meaning. The mandolins were a 'proxy' for Bill Monroe himself for the perpetrator to vent their anger on,which makes it very,very likely for it to have been a woman,as most of us already assume. The police report makes for grim reading, & praise the good Lord that there was somebody as skilled as Charlie Derrington around to repair the mandolins - an incredible feat of skill,
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    Thank you to the original poster: while not completely inexpert, (but not completely expert either), I'm inclined to believe it genuine.

    *EDIT: read all of thread - it's genuine. *END EDIT

    There's a lot of talk about who might have done it: I THINK I might have an idea, but I probably don't.

    It's fascinating reading.

    And an amazing repair job, no doubt about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatt-dad View Post
    I just know what's in the book and find this police report interesting.

    Now, I'm curious what makes F5Loar so well connected to the Monroe incident? I do know he's quite the expert on Loar mandolins though!

    (loving a good mystery.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mando_Zeek View Post
    Did anyone else think it was interesting that the police officer made a point to say that the photo of Bill's brother was unharmed?

    "Poker holes were stabbed through a picture of Bill Monroe on the living room wall. Right beside that was a picture of Mr. Monroe's brother, which was not harmed."
    It was personal. The person that did it didn't randomly select a house and destroy two mandolins by chance. That's why that's in the police report. It pretty much lays the groundwork for the type of vandalism it was. Any detective working the case and any prosecutor that came afterwards would know more about the perpetrator of the crime from details like that. I wonder if there were crime scene photos taken? Those would be really interesting.
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    Colonel Mustard, in the living room, with the firepoker.

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    By the way, which one's pink?

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