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    Saw this posted on a Facebook group.....


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    Looks like Howard Wolowitz playing the slide guitar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertram Henze View Post
    Looks like Howard Wolowitz playing the slide guitar
    What slide guitar? I saw a pedal steel, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidKOS View Post
    What slide guitar? I saw a pedal steel, though.
    Sigh... I think 100% of us knew what Bertram meant....

    What a cool clip! Thanks, Tom... I enjoyed that. Pretty neat when Euro bands "adopt" an era of American history/music... They had the name, the look, and the feel. Makes me feel better about imitating Django in Pittsburgh, lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jstring View Post
    Sigh... I think 100% of us knew what Bertram meant....

    What a cool clip! Thanks, Tom... I enjoyed that. Pretty neat when Euro bands "adopt" an era of American history/music... They had the name, the look, and the feel. Makes me feel better about imitating Django in Pittsburgh, lol!
    Slide guitar is no more pedal steel than a mandolin is a banjo. NOT THE SAME!

    Sorry.....a pet peeve.

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    I knew we had bluegrass police.... I didn't know we had pedal steel police!!

    Just joking, David... I enjoy your posts and wisdom.

    I think when most of us say "slide guitar", we're referring to the technique, not the instrument...

    The Wikipedia page says:
    Slide guitar is a particular method or technique for playing the guitar. Instead of altering the pitch of the strings in the normal manner (by pressing the string against frets), an object called a "slide" is placed upon the string to vary its vibrating length, and pitch.....This same technique is used to play pedal steel guitar and the "Dobro" resonator guitar used in Bluegrass music.

    But I do understand your angst... If one more person comes up to me at a gig and asks to see my ukulele, I'm going to snap!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jstring View Post

    I think when most of us say "slide guitar", we're referring to the technique, not the instrument...

    The Wikipedia page says:
    Slide guitar is a particular method or technique for playing the guitar. Instead of altering the pitch of the strings in the normal manner (by pressing the string against frets), an object called a "slide" is placed upon the string to vary its vibrating length, and pitch.....This same technique is used to play pedal steel guitar and the "Dobro" resonator guitar used in Bluegrass music.

    But I do understand your angst... If one more person comes up to me at a gig and asks to see my ukulele, I'm going to snap!
    That Wiki definition is somewhat misleading.

    Slide is played in normal guitar position, with the guitar held normally, and the slide or bottleneck fits over a fretting finger and sounds the notes. The guitar can also be played by fretting notes too. Often simple open tunings are used.

    Although the concept is the same, the lap steel/Hawaiian guitar/pedal steel family all use a bar or steel, held in the hands, the instrument sits in the lap or on a stand, has very high action and fretting is impossible. The bar can be slanted, and many more complex open tunings are used.

    I play both - that's why I differentiate them.

    Sorry to be a curmudgeon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidKOS View Post
    Sorry.....a pet peeve.
    Made you post
    I know now how it feels to be a layman. I am simply classifying along words' semantic:
    - it looks like a guitar
    - it has a very high action
    - it has unneccessary frets
    - it is played with a piston
    Isn't that how you recognize a slide guitar? - But I guess that, just as with CBOMs for instance, all the available words are already bound in an illogical system and freedom of interpretation is nil.
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    Slide:



    Steel:



    Many sources lump them together incorrectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertram Henze View Post
    Isn't that how you recognize a slide guitar? - But I guess that, just as with CBOMs for instance, all the available words are already bound in an illogical system and freedom of interpretation is nil.
    I suppose if your goal is to be completely unintelligible, you ought to feel free to interpret / reinvent meaning as you see fit.

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    I found a collection of vids of this very fun band here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ0u...c5QBEkegMkenj6

    It's helping me get through an otherwise dreary day at work.

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    Thanks for the comments folks, I'm the mando player in this band.

    The pedal steel player is a fantastic musician and just after that video was shot went on to tour the world playing with Billy Bragg so sadly only plays with us occasionally now (but we are all really pleased for him). We have now added a dobro player who sings harmony vocals and also a trumpet player and gig reasonably regularly (about a couple of gigs a month) usually in the Manchester area.

    The singer and driving force behind the band works in tv in his day job, and managed to call in a couple of favours to get a professionally shot video.

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    I've really enjoyed your music. Are you planning on recording anything? I'd love to have a CD or a download!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scot63 View Post
    I've really enjoyed your music. Are you planning on recording anything? I'd love to have a CD or a download!
    Thanks Scot, we've got about 10 tracks recorded and will probably aim to do another 3-4 and then may release an album. Here are another couple of videos, hope you like them The first is with the current line up (ps sorry for the mando playing, am gradually trying to improve my technique!)




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    My hat is off to whoever did the editing of the Big Butter video. If it were'nt for sunlight and shadows I'd have a hard time telling how it was done.
    I see the pedal steel was replaced by a lap steel (is that correct David???) but the overall acoustic appearence of the band is hardly changed at all. It's all not only good but excellent.
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    Very nice! Oh, as to what the "slide instrument" is on the Big Butter tune, Waldo Otto (from Red Knuckles and The Trailblazers) called it "the electric table".
    Hope this helps.
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    A bunch of stuff with four strings

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    Hey, Paul, actually you're mandolin playing and the repertoire is what attracted me in the first place. Please keep us all posted on the recording—I want one, and I'm sure a bunch here will, too!

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    i'll weigh in.
    LOVE your lead singer. Sometimes the editing is really distracting, sometimes it's awesome. My personal preference would be to take the editing down a notch, but keep the good parts. Of course, that's what everybody wants! Good luck. Plug on!
    Just want to add this> In case you're not sure: this is GOOD music!

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    I like it very cool stuff, reminds me of Pokey Lafarge somewhat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmsweeney View Post
    I like it very cool stuff, reminds me of Pokey Lafarge somewhat.
    Thanks - actually Dominic (the lead singer in the band) introduced me to Pokey Lafarge's music and we went to see Pokey when he came and did a gig in Manchester last year

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