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    Default Two Secrets to Bluesy, Old-Timey Mandolin Licks

    i just found this, haven't had time to watch it all but it looks interesting and instructional

    here you go

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    Daryl,
    When I click on the link, it says unable to find.

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    Love playing blues mandolin licks! Awesome bluesman on mando is http://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/%22L...=mode+matchall
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    sorry folks, i posted in a rush and should have linked the video, my fault(at work). thanks bingoccc

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    Not exactly an example of proper mandolin picking technique, IMHO. But the software looks nifty. Anyone using this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred Hacker View Post
    Not exactly an example of proper mandolin picking technique, IMHO. But the software looks nifty. Anyone using this?
    Yes, I do not advocate that method of holding a pick for Bluegrass nor any other style of mandolin.

    I am not an advocate of his flattened wrist left hand technique either.

    In short, I wouldn't take mandolin lessons from that guy!

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    Scott is a totally cool dude. Finally got to meet him at Winfield this last year. I don't think he's trying to teach mandolin as much as he's teaching the theory of blues licks, demonstrated on a mandolin. That's what you need to glean from that video.

    I have his books and they are quite helpful. His full site is http://www.fretboard-toolbox.com/home-1.html He has a lot of free stuff there, and the books he charges for are reasonably priced and worth adding to your collection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vinyard View Post
    Scott is a totally cool dude. Finally got to meet him at Winfield this last year. I don't think he's trying to teach mandolin as much as he's teaching the theory of blues licks, demonstrated on a mandolin. That's what you need to glean from that video.
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    I just was commenting on what I saw. I'm sure Scott is a fine player and a good guy - I just would not want my mandolin students to learn sheer technique from that video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vinyard View Post
    Scott is a totally cool dude. Finally got to meet him at Winfield this last year. I don't think he's trying to teach mandolin as much as he's teaching the theory of blues licks, demonstrated on a mandolin. That's what you need to glean from that video.

    I have his books and they are quite helpful. His full site is http://www.fretboard-toolbox.com/home-1.html He has a lot of free stuff there, and the books he charges for are reasonably priced and worth adding to your collection.
    yes, this
    video is not about physical technique but the blues licks and such.
    i found it interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darylcrisp View Post
    yes, this
    video is not about physical technique but the blues licks and such.
    i found it interesting.
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    I saw it - it does demonstrate the basic concept of sliding into the major 3rd from the minor 3rd and its use in blues playing, but I had a hard time watching his hands! I wanted to play mandolin teacher and correct his hand position before other folks start playing that way after watching - but I guess many folks play well enough with their own idiosyncratic technique and it's none of my business how they hold the instrument and pick.

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    Helpful. Thanks for posting.
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    Good stuff, thanks for posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidKOS View Post
    but I guess many folks play well enough with their own idiosyncratic technique and it's none of my business how they hold the instrument and pick.
    when you say it like that I kinda want some for myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidKOS View Post
    Yes, I do not advocate that method of holding a pick for Bluegrass nor any other style of mandolin.

    I am not an advocate of his flattened wrist left hand technique either.

    In short, I wouldn't take mandolin lessons from that guy!
    Hi David,

    I'm the guy in the video with the bad technique- but the good news is that I'm currently a month into lessons with Don Julin and he is methodically showing me the many errors in my ways, especially the left and right hand issues you mentioned. (I always wondered why playing mandolin hurt my wrists). This is probably just what happens when you write a series of books for a whole bunch of instruments on which you've never properly been trained! For what it's worth, my goal has never been to teach folks proper technique (which I'm still learning), nor how to be a hot picker (which I'm not), but it's to show a different way to visualize fretboards and the chords and scales that make up keys- ideas which have made a huge difference for me, poor technique notwithstanding. Maybe I need a disclaimer saying as much!

    I've been working on these books the last five years, so I really should have just started mandolin lessons a long time ago!

    In short, I concur with your assessments.

    Happy playing,

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    Hey Scott,

    Thanks for the video.

    I tried to get someone to teach me those licks/concepts for years and no one could explain when to use a flatted third/seventh to get a bluesy sound. I flinally figured it out on my own a year ago.

    I guess it was so easy and I was trying to make it hard.

    Excellent job...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fretboard Toolbox View Post
    Hi David,

    I'm the guy in the video ....into lessons with Don Julin and he is methodically showing me the many errors in my ways, especially the left and right hand issues you mentioned. (I always wondered why playing mandolin hurt my wrists). This is probably just what happens when you write a series of books for a whole bunch of instruments on which you've never properly been trained!
    First I too play a number of instruments on which I too could be better trained, so I'm very sympathetic to your situation.

    Anyway, what you were teaching was great stuff - very useful concepts, and after some technical help from a good teacher, I bet your wrists will feel better after playing.

    Sorry to be so tough...it's my years as a music teacher coming out. Take care and I wish you the best.

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    Hi David,

    You weren't too tough at all! I've been a high school biology teacher for 15 years, so I understand how frustrating it is to try to change student perceptions (or muscle memory in the case of music) when someone has learned/been taught incorrectly. My hope is that people use my books to be able to visualize (and understand the language of) the scales chords that make up keys, and then use that information to get the most out of lessons with the countless outstanding players there are out there on whatever instrument they want to play. At least that's how I use them. :-)

    BTW, I checked out your website and YouTube channel and it looks/sounds to me like you couldn't be much better trained!

    Best wishes,
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    Thanks, Scott, and I really like what you are trying to accomplish with your book series.

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