Here is a clip of John Reischman laying my old Heiden F #21 at the Wintergrass Mandolin Tasting in 2004.
I now have #66; clip to come.
https://soundcloud.com/bobremington/f-5-heiden-21
Here is a clip of John Reischman laying my old Heiden F #21 at the Wintergrass Mandolin Tasting in 2004.
I now have #66; clip to come.
https://soundcloud.com/bobremington/f-5-heiden-21
Great playing as usual Don!
Whereas I do not own a Heiden, everyone I have heard and played have been outstanding. He also did some work on my Ratcliff that changed my mind on selling it. Some magic hands that man has.
Jason Anderson
"...while a great mandolin is a wonderful treat, I would venture to say that there is always more each of us can do with the tools we have available at hand. The biggest limiting factors belong to us not the instruments." Paul Glasse
Stumbling Towards Competence
Thanks, Jason!
Hey Bob, thanks for the sound sample of #21. I hope you'll post some pics and sound clips of #66. No F5s in the thread yet.
2010 Heiden A5, 2020 Pomeroy oval A, 2013 Kentucky KM1000 F5, 2012 Girouard A Mandola w ff holes, 2001 Old Wave A oval octave
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Here's No. 66. The video is flopped. It's right handed. Sorry, the playing is a bit rough. I was drunk (kidding). I'll post a better one that does it justice.
Thanks for posting that video, Bob. You can hear the clarity of tone.
Here's a part of a song from a little picking with a friend this weekend. Recorded on a Zoom H2, no EQ, just a little volume boost. You can hear the round tone of #54 on this cut.
2010 Heiden A5, 2020 Pomeroy oval A, 2013 Kentucky KM1000 F5, 2012 Girouard A Mandola w ff holes, 2001 Old Wave A oval octave
http://HillbillyChamberMusic.bandcamp.com
Videos: https://www.youtube.com/@hillbillychambermusic
A comparison between a Red Diamond and a Heiden. Two fine mandolins. The Red Diamond is a standard F #137 (once owned by David Grisman), lacquer finish made in 2001. The Heiden is #66 F Artist varnish finish made in 2003.
Bob I don't see a link for your samples after the first one of John playing #21 at Wintergrass.
"A sudden clash of thunder, the mind doors burst open, and lo, there sits old man Buddha-nature in all his homeliness."
CHAO-PIEN
Try this: https://vimeo.com/118517644
2010 Heiden A5, 2020 Pomeroy oval A, 2013 Kentucky KM1000 F5, 2012 Girouard A Mandola w ff holes, 2001 Old Wave A oval octave
http://HillbillyChamberMusic.bandcamp.com
Videos: https://www.youtube.com/@hillbillychambermusic
Thanks for the video comparison. I went back and forth each time I watched it trying to decide which I liked better. Tough choice! Results: I'd take both!
Thanks Bob, both sound great. I like the Red Diamond the best in that comparison.
"A sudden clash of thunder, the mind doors burst open, and lo, there sits old man Buddha-nature in all his homeliness."
CHAO-PIEN
The Heiden currently has a slight edge in the Heiden-Red Diamond smackdown, with Facebook users preferring the Heiden and the RD getting the nod so far on this thread.
those two are some of my favorite builders ,both earlier examples of their work ,would be nice to hear two recent ones
Danny Clark
I haven't played a newer Heiden but the newer vintage-voiced RD's are mighty impressive. Both of the above don't have much playing time despite their age. Unlike me, they will no doubt get better with age.
I can't log in to the Cafe without getting a recurrence (of my barely controlled) MAS! Mandolin Cafe should shut down threads like this...:-)
I agree, John. Mandolin Cafe is evil.
Jason Anderson
"...while a great mandolin is a wonderful treat, I would venture to say that there is always more each of us can do with the tools we have available at hand. The biggest limiting factors belong to us not the instruments." Paul Glasse
Stumbling Towards Competence
Here's another sound clip of A-54. Learned this Butch Baldassari tune for the SAW social group this week.
2010 Heiden A5, 2020 Pomeroy oval A, 2013 Kentucky KM1000 F5, 2012 Girouard A Mandola w ff holes, 2001 Old Wave A oval octave
http://HillbillyChamberMusic.bandcamp.com
Videos: https://www.youtube.com/@hillbillychambermusic
One just hit the classifieds -being sold by Mark O'Connor's son Forrest (who is a heck of a mandolin player) looks killer. Wondering if this is the one from Carter's Vintage that was for sale earlier this year. That one was a 2013 and was a hoss for sure!!!
The Heiden being offered by Forrest O'Connor is indeed the same mandolin that sold at CVG last year (2013 F-5), and it certainly is impressive!
What I want to know is this... if Michael's mandolins are so great (and I've played many that are) why is everybody trying to sell them?
Glassweb, you pot stirrer you...There are real Gibson Loars, Gibson Ferns, Kimbles, Gilchrists, Monteleones, Dudenbostels, Nuggets, Altmans, Daleys, Ellises, Red Diamonds, Smarts. Lewises, Randy Woods and every other maker imaginable for sale out there right now. I doubt is has anything to do with any of these makers or mandolins not being so great. Its MAS at its height!!! Among other things...
There you go... merely MAS. That's the answer I was hoping for. By the way, as I mentioned in my post above Michael's mandolins are INDEED great... no doubt about that.
I've sold a Gilchrist F5, a Gibson MM, and a pile of others because I preferred my Heiden A5. Looks like Forrest is having another Heiden built. I'd assume he's changing the neck shape/nut width or maybe going with different woods. MAS is a funny thing....
Shaun Garrity
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