Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 43

Thread: Is the mandolin easier to play?

  1. #1

    Default Is the mandolin easier to play?

    Is the mandolin easier to learn to play than the guitar? It seems easier to me to learn to play than the guitar. Is that because of it's smaller size, because there are less strings?

  2. #2
    Registered User tkdboyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Battle Ground, Indiana
    Posts
    900

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    I don't believe there is such a thing as an easy instrument to play. If it is a quality instrument and well set up and you want to play guitar like Django Reinhardt, or the mandolin like Dave Apollon neither instrument will be easy.

  3. #3
    Mando-Accumulator Jim Garber's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Westchester, NY
    Posts
    30,765

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    One that makes the mandolin "easier" is that it is tuned uniformly, that is, each course is one fifth higher than the one lower. Guitar is tuned in fourths until you get to the b string. Other than that I would not say easier -- they are both different and the approaches to learning them are different. For instance, I would say as a beginner you generally would play single note tunes or etudes vs. the guitar which you generally learn chords at first.
    Jim

    My Stream on Soundcloud
    Facebook
    19th Century Tunes
    Playing lately:
    1924 Gibson A4 - 2018 Campanella A-5 - 2007 Brentrup A4C - 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin - Huss & Dalton DS - 1923 Gibson A2 black snakehead - '83 Flatiron A5-2 - 1939 Gibson L-00 - 1936 Epiphone Deluxe - 1928 Gibson L-5 - ca. 1890s Fairbanks Senator Banjo - ca. 1923 Vega Style M tenor banjo - ca. 1920 Weymann Style 25 Mandolin-Banjo - National RM-1

  4. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Jim Garber For This Useful Post:


  5. #4
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Gainesville, FL
    Posts
    2,664

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    Jim echos my experience. Overall I have found the mandolin easier to learn than the guitar.

  6. #5
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Gilbertsville. New York
    Posts
    1,842

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    If an instrument is "easy" you aren't working hard enough.... Growth demands hard work....

    The guitar was my first "real" instrument and by comparison I found it easier than the mando. But with the mando I really worked harder and demanded a lot more of myself...
    Bart McNeil

  7. #6
    but that's just me Bertram Henze's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    0.8 mpc from NGC224, upstairs
    Posts
    10,075

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    The instrument chooses the player, and whichever instrument chooses you will be the easiest, whatever reasons you try to invent for it afterwards.
    That is because love for the instrument carries you through prolonged phases of practising with joy in your heart; the instrument you picked up for other reasons will bore you to death and make practising a waste of lifetime.
    the world is better off without bad ideas, good ideas are better off without the world

  8. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Bertram Henze For This Useful Post:


  9. #7

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bertram Henze View Post
    The instrument chooses the player, and whichever instrument chooses you will be the easiest, whatever reasons you try to invent for it afterwards.
    In my case, it's the music that chooses (me)--and the instruments follow. The instruments I've settled on are the most challenging (and the most difficult) for me--but they best execute the music I want to play...

    I would love it if they were the easiest for me...but it's quite the opposite

  10. #8
    Registered User SincereCorgi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Bay Area, California
    Posts
    2,128

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    Any instrument that is 'easy' in some way always makes you work hard to make up for its limitations in other ways. Guitars have a more complicated tuning, but that tuning lends itself extremely well to sophisticated chord shapes, whereas with mandolin you have to work much harder to overcome its 'easy' tuning to play a lot of chords. A pianist has to work for years to learn the phrasing and pedal technique to create legato effects that come easily on, say, a saxophone. Having said that, at the very beginning stages of learning, some instruments are definitely easier than others.

  11. #9

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    Quote Originally Posted by SincereCorgi View Post
    Any instrument that is 'easy' in some way always makes you work hard to make up for its limitations in other ways. Guitars have a more complicated tuning, but that tuning lends itself extremely well to sophisticated chord shapes, whereas with mandolin you have to work much harder to overcome its 'easy' tuning to play a lot of chords. A pianist has to work for years to learn the phrasing and pedal technique to create legato effects that come easily on, say, a saxophone. Having said that, at the very beginning stages of learning, some instruments are definitely easier than others.
    Yep. Again the (OP) poses an insufficient question. Other factors must be known if we can answer meaningfully--otherwise, it's like asking: "what's easiest--running or swimming?" What's more difficult--piano or erhu?

    But, so much also depends upon what one is learning in the beginning stages (at least two disparate approaches in guitar, for example). Beginning pedagogy probably varies less with mandolin--with fewer variances in its "popular" deployment, etc.

    Yes, what Jim said above (about the "chording" nature of the guitar). I look at the guitar a bit more like a "piano"--and a mandolin a bit more like a "fiddle." An instrument with a lot of polyphony is going to be much different (from the outset) than the instrument with relatively less

    Yes one more thing about what s-corgi said: lots of remarks from the great horn men speaking about struggling against the limitations of their instruments, technique, etc (in the arts, it's a common problem)
    Last edited by catmandu2; Nov-22-2013 at 1:57pm.

  12. #10
    but that's just me Bertram Henze's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    0.8 mpc from NGC224, upstairs
    Posts
    10,075

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    Quote Originally Posted by catmandu2 View Post
    The instruments I've settled on are the most challenging (and the most difficult) for me--but they best execute the music I want to play...
    I think multi-instrumentalists are a different breed - not applied to by my statement because they never actually fall in love with one single instrument like I do.
    the world is better off without bad ideas, good ideas are better off without the world

  13. #11
    Registered User Pasha Alden's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Grahamstown South Africa
    Posts
    1,705
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    Well I guess it depends what you wish to compare it to and if you actually can.
    With my small hands the mandolin is easier than the guitar. However, I must agree with a previous post: every instrument will have its challenges. Someone once remarked nothing worthwhile comes easy. Perhaps that is something for musicians to keep in mind?
    So let us all strive for that beautiful gold standard? <big smile>
    Happy playing all

    Playing:
    Jbovier a5 2013;
    Crafter M70E acoustic mandolin
    Jbovier F5 mandola 2016

  14. #12
    but that's just me Bertram Henze's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    0.8 mpc from NGC224, upstairs
    Posts
    10,075

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    There is proof that small hands are no excuse for not playing the guitar...



    the world is better off without bad ideas, good ideas are better off without the world

  15. #13
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Kernersville, NC
    Posts
    2,593
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    New to mandolin myself. Coming from guitar, I noticed how much easier it is to 'find' a chord (even a new chord) in so many places on fretboard. I already find myself locating new chords by ear quickly w/o use of a chord book.

    One of challenges for me is overshooting a fret on mandolin. Don't recall doing that on guitar

  16. #14
    Registered User Mandobart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Washington State
    Posts
    3,673

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    On a different note, I find that mandolin is much tougher on my fingers than guitar. Guitar is "easier" to learn because there are more and less expensive instruments, resources, teachers.

  17. #15
    Troy Shellhamer 9lbShellhamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Conway, NH
    Posts
    896

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    I second many of the above comments. The mandolin makes more "sense" than the guitar in its tuning, and I believe the tuning of each suits its purpose.

    The tuning of the guitar allows not only strong chord formations for rhythm players, but also for scales to be played keeping the wrist in the same station. (meaning: full scales can be played on all six strings using the standard guitar one finger per fret rule), whereas in Mandolin the scales can be easily be played up to the fifth and sixth frets keeping the wrist in the same station using the two frets per finger rule.

    The guitar is an incredibly versatile instrument, lending itself to a multitide of voicings. It's an incredible instrument.

    The mandolin is not as versatile, (even Chris Thile admits its limitations). The mandolin in its tuning in fifths however is such a beautifully logical instrument!

    Like someone above said already, its as hard as you want to make it. I do think that the mandolin is "easier". That being said, both can be so challenging they easily allow time for a lifetime of full time study. They are both instruments, and music theory applies evenly to both. The application of music theory is universal, and theory is a lifetime study.

    Enjoy it!
    *2002 Collings MT2
    *2016 Gibson F5 Custom
    *Martin D18
    *Deering Sierra

  18. #16

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bertram Henze View Post
    I think multi-instrumentalists are a different breed - not applied to by my statement because they never actually fall in love with one single instrument like I do.
    Yes, I think you're accurate--in distinguishing a difference--now that I think of it. For decades I was completely absorbed with but one (flamenco guitar, and Bach), and that was it. It's been but a decade since getting into broad musics--I didn't realize my memory is this short!

    That may be a succinct way of putting it--but perhaps apt nonetheless. It's not that I've fallen OUT of love with these...but IN love with other (more diffuse) sources, I suppose

  19. #17
    Registered User Timbofood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Kalamazoo, MI.
    Posts
    7,487

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    I always love this question! It reminds me of what an old boss used to say:
    "Do you walk to work or carry your lunch?"
    I don't know if it's really easier to play mandolin than guitar it's "Different."
    If you want to play any instrument you will find a way, the desire makes the difficulty undaunting. No obstacle will keep you from the pursuit of learning. Every instrument presents it's own challenges, embrace the difference. More learning, more knowledge, more appreciation!
    Timothy F. Lewis
    "If brains was lard, that boy couldn't grease a very big skillet" J.D. Clampett

  20. The following members say thank you to Timbofood for this post:


  21. #18

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    Quote Originally Posted by Timbofood View Post
    ... the desire makes the difficulty undaunting. No obstacle will keep you from the pursuit of learning.
    Quite well said

  22. #19
    Registered User Pasha Alden's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Grahamstown South Africa
    Posts
    1,705
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    Well Bertram - I have to say, the guitar I still play from time to time, however, my pinkie just cannot bar chords I have actually tried. So I guess here is proof that in some cases it is not possible? But thanks for the encouragement anyhow! I think I will stick to the mandolin and perhaps the ukulele?

    Playing:
    Jbovier a5 2013;
    Crafter M70E acoustic mandolin
    Jbovier F5 mandola 2016

  23. #20
    Registered User Pasha Alden's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Grahamstown South Africa
    Posts
    1,705
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    In addition to my response I must then say: perhaps it is my physical limitation: that of small hands and not the instrument that is too difficult.
    While I am reticent to speak about the limits of mandolins, I agree that the guitar is extremely versatile, but that the mandolin makes an exquisite contribution to music and has crossed many genres.

    Playing:
    Jbovier a5 2013;
    Crafter M70E acoustic mandolin
    Jbovier F5 mandola 2016

  24. The following members say thank you to Pasha Alden for this post:


  25. #21
    Innocent Bystander JeffD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Upstate New York
    Posts
    24,807
    Blog Entries
    56

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    I started with mandolin. I have played with a guitar for fun and curiosity.

    I think the mandolin is easier to play well, while the guitar is easier to play poorly. There seems to be a level one can reach on the guitar where you are adequate, and even useful, but its extremely hard to get any better. Its almost like you have to start from the beginning again and go a different way to make progress on it. While mandolin makes so much sense, with so much symmetries, it seems easier to get real good.

    But really, YMMV.
    A talent for trivializin' the momentous and complicatin' the obvious.

    The entire staff
    funny....

  26. The following members say thank you to JeffD for this post:


  27. #22

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffD View Post
    ...the guitar is easier to play poorly. There seems to be a level one can reach on the guitar where you are adequate, and even useful, but its extremely hard to get any better. Its almost like you have to start from the beginning again and go a different way to make progress on it.

    One of the big problems in guitar pedagogy. Because of its immense popularity, prevalence in "pop" music (what permeated much of our listening experience--at one time or another), and the fact that most of the guitar in this milieu is trite...produces the phenomenon that--everyone CAN play to this level (basic few chords and progressions, picking patterns, licks) without ever discovering much about the instrument or its capabilities -- right, scores of people have made millions from the guitar--in its simplest and most basic form

    When something becomes so vastly popular--it tends to be easily parodied. The guitar certainly has, and has been done a tremendous disservice (and those who might have been interested in learning more about the guitar) for having been iconicized and suffering the perfidious effects of popular culture--relegating it (a complex instrument capable of extensive polyphony and subtlety) by the masses as a trite accessory and preeminent instrument of the dilettante.

    One other thing which may or may not have been said: the guitar is an excellent instrument for music pedagogy (much like piano) -- an instrument well suited for formal study in Western harmony, counterpoint, composition, as well as all the popular styles

  28. #23
    Innocent Bystander JeffD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Upstate New York
    Posts
    24,807
    Blog Entries
    56

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    Quote Originally Posted by catmandu2 View Post
    One of the big problems in guitar pedagogy. Because of its immense popularity, prevalence in "pop" music (what permeated much of our listening experience--at one time or another), and the fact that most of the guitar in this milieu is trite...produces the phenomenon that--everyone CAN play to this level (basic few chords and progressions, picking patterns, licks) without ever discovering much about the instrument or its capabilities -- right, scores of people have made millions from the guitar--in its simplest and most basic form
    I agree. What is considered acceptably good in guitar is gigantically influenced by its prominence in pop culture.

    If apples are compared to apples, I would think comparable levels of good are probably equally hard to achieve on most instruments.
    A talent for trivializin' the momentous and complicatin' the obvious.

    The entire staff
    funny....

  29. #24
    but that's just me Bertram Henze's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    0.8 mpc from NGC224, upstairs
    Posts
    10,075

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vannillamandolin View Post
    Well Bertram - I have to say, the guitar I still play from time to time, however, my pinkie just cannot bar chords I have actually tried.
    Neither can't I. My pinkies are approx half the size of their ring finger neighbors, while people playing the guitar by the book on videos always seem to have pinkies as big as their ring fingers. But I play the big instrument anyway (OM, not guitar), cheating my way around pinky usage and in fact around most orthodox ways to play, and it works.
    That's my point - there is always another way. If you can't run like the others, just take the bus.
    the world is better off without bad ideas, good ideas are better off without the world

  30. #25

    Default Re: Is the mandolin easier to play?

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffD View Post
    I started with mandolin. I have played with a guitar for fun and curiosity.

    I think the mandolin is easier to play well, while the guitar is easier to play poorly. There seems to be a level one can reach on the guitar where you are adequate, and even useful, but its extremely hard to get any better. Its almost like you have to start from the beginning again and go a different way to make progress on it. While mandolin makes so much sense, with so much symmetries, it seems easier to get real good.

    But really, YMMV.
    I agree. I think it is easy to get very satisfying sounds out of a guitar after a short time of trying without much skill. The mandolin makes a less satisfying sound at first because it requires more abiity. However, after a few years the mandolin feels infinitely simpler to me but this may we be due to greater application. I think a poorly played mandolin can sound awful whereas most peope can knock something out of a guitar simply because so many great songs are based on a few simpe chords.
    There is a famous quote from Bob Dylan. He and Bono (of U2) were in the studio. Bono says to Dylan "Bob, your songs will be known long after we're gone."
    Dylan replies "So will yours, ony difference is no one will be able to play them."
    Simplicity isn't necessariy a sin!

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •