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Raphael Ciani Galiano circa 1920
Gibson F-5G FB 2003
John D'Angelico 1933
Vivitone Acoustic #338 circa 1933
Gibson F4 1915 Blacktop
Shutt/ Harmony Viol Mandolin circa 1930
#39 Electric Mandola from University of South Dakota
http://orgs.usd.edu/nmm/ElectricInst...arMandola.html
Raphael Ciani Galiano circa 1920
Gibson F-5G FB 2003
John D'Angelico 1933
Vivitone Acoustic #338 circa 1933
Gibson F4 1915 Blacktop
Shutt/ Harmony Viol Mandolin circa 1930
Those are nifty instruments!!!
Bart McNeil
Whhhh???
Scotty, you better take another look into these transporter issues before beaming again.
F-holes in the back, tailpiece halfway up the top - can we have a pickguard on the headstock, please?
the world is better off without bad ideas, good ideas are better off without the world
Those are Mr. Lloyd Loar's creations.
Bill Snyder
Benjamin:
Here are a few I found online -- these should keep you busy.
Vivi-Tone Electric Tenor Guitar , c. 1933 - RetroFret
Vivi-Tone Electric Lute-Body Tenor Guitar , c. 1933 - RetroFret
Vivitone Mandolin (from Lowell Levinger's museum pages)
Group Shot from Lowell -- Impressive!!
ViviTone Guitar from Folkway Music museum page
Vivitone Acoustic Guitar at Spruce Tree Music
Check out this guy playing a tenor guitar:
Jim
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19th Century Tunes
Playing lately:
1924 Gibson A4 - 2018 Campanella A-5 - 2007 Brentrup A4C - 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin - Huss & Dalton DS - 1923 Gibson A2 black snakehead - '83 Flatiron A5-2 - 1939 Gibson L-00 - 1936 Epiphone Deluxe - 1928 Gibson L-5 - ca. 1890s Fairbanks Senator Banjo - ca. 1923 Vega Style M tenor banjo - ca. 1920 Weymann Style 25 Mandolin-Banjo - National RM-1
Thank you, Jim. The first one I played was the electric lute at retrofret, then I played a guitar in a guitar shop on Woodward Ave. in Berkley, Michigan. I look forward to keeping you all in the loop on some more of my research.
Raphael Ciani Galiano circa 1920
Gibson F-5G FB 2003
John D'Angelico 1933
Vivitone Acoustic #338 circa 1933
Gibson F4 1915 Blacktop
Shutt/ Harmony Viol Mandolin circa 1930
I just realized that this is the Vivitone mandolin registry. So, no guitars, keyboards or stringed instruments?
Siminoff info - scroll down for ViViTone.
Jim
My Stream on Soundcloud
19th Century Tunes
Playing lately:
1924 Gibson A4 - 2018 Campanella A-5 - 2007 Brentrup A4C - 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin - Huss & Dalton DS - 1923 Gibson A2 black snakehead - '83 Flatiron A5-2 - 1939 Gibson L-00 - 1936 Epiphone Deluxe - 1928 Gibson L-5 - ca. 1890s Fairbanks Senator Banjo - ca. 1923 Vega Style M tenor banjo - ca. 1920 Weymann Style 25 Mandolin-Banjo - National RM-1
"The paths of experimentation twist and turn through mountains of miscalculations, and often lose themselves in error and darkness!"
--Leslie Daniel, "The Brain That Wouldn't Die."
Some tunes: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa1...SV2qtug/videos
Jim
My Stream on Soundcloud
19th Century Tunes
Playing lately:
1924 Gibson A4 - 2018 Campanella A-5 - 2007 Brentrup A4C - 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin - Huss & Dalton DS - 1923 Gibson A2 black snakehead - '83 Flatiron A5-2 - 1939 Gibson L-00 - 1936 Epiphone Deluxe - 1928 Gibson L-5 - ca. 1890s Fairbanks Senator Banjo - ca. 1923 Vega Style M tenor banjo - ca. 1920 Weymann Style 25 Mandolin-Banjo - National RM-1
I like the tail piece on #338. Looks more suited to a banjo though.
David Houchens
http://bryceinstruments.com/
I wonder if that wood bar on the back that runs in the longitudinal plane of the instrument is for structure or is actually the world's first hummbucker!
Whatever dismissive comments can made about Loyd Loar's idiosyncrasies no one can deny that he was not a brilliant, imaginative, and insightful man.
I well expect that Les Paul, who also a brilliant man and also "ahead of his time", knew and learned from the earlier work of Loyd Loar.
Every long journey to a prize starts with a single step -- but to even start each journey someone has to have the imagination and, yes the clairvoyance, that allows them to take that first step.
I think the efforts of pioneering geniuses should be lauded not derided - but that is just me.
Bernie
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Due to current budgetary restrictions the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off -- sorry about the inconvenience.
I believe that in this patent he explains some of these electric, structural and acoustic designs.
Jim
My Stream on Soundcloud
19th Century Tunes
Playing lately:
1924 Gibson A4 - 2018 Campanella A-5 - 2007 Brentrup A4C - 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin - Huss & Dalton DS - 1923 Gibson A2 black snakehead - '83 Flatiron A5-2 - 1939 Gibson L-00 - 1936 Epiphone Deluxe - 1928 Gibson L-5 - ca. 1890s Fairbanks Senator Banjo - ca. 1923 Vega Style M tenor banjo - ca. 1920 Weymann Style 25 Mandolin-Banjo - National RM-1
There's a lot of debate about who really came out with the first electric instruments. Most give credit to Adolf Rickenbacker for his "frying pan" electric lap steel, some give credit to Loar, but Gibson did introduce their first electric archtop in 1933, which pre-dates their lap steels by a few years. Here's an ad from Metronome for this guitar. Les Paul was certainly an innovator, but did NOT invent the electric guitar, contrary to popular believe.
Visit www.fox-guitars.com - cool Gibson & Epiphone history and more. Vintage replacement mandolin pickguards
Paul: I think you are referring to electric stringed instruments. There were electrified keyboards and synthesizers back even in the 19th century.
BTW has anyone actually seen the guitar and amp in that ad? Does it exist or was it just an artist's rendition.
Jim
My Stream on Soundcloud
19th Century Tunes
Playing lately:
1924 Gibson A4 - 2018 Campanella A-5 - 2007 Brentrup A4C - 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin - Huss & Dalton DS - 1923 Gibson A2 black snakehead - '83 Flatiron A5-2 - 1939 Gibson L-00 - 1936 Epiphone Deluxe - 1928 Gibson L-5 - ca. 1890s Fairbanks Senator Banjo - ca. 1923 Vega Style M tenor banjo - ca. 1920 Weymann Style 25 Mandolin-Banjo - National RM-1
This one by LL has something similar to a Virzi. Also attached is the actual Virzi patent.
Jim
My Stream on Soundcloud
19th Century Tunes
Playing lately:
1924 Gibson A4 - 2018 Campanella A-5 - 2007 Brentrup A4C - 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin - Huss & Dalton DS - 1923 Gibson A2 black snakehead - '83 Flatiron A5-2 - 1939 Gibson L-00 - 1936 Epiphone Deluxe - 1928 Gibson L-5 - ca. 1890s Fairbanks Senator Banjo - ca. 1923 Vega Style M tenor banjo - ca. 1920 Weymann Style 25 Mandolin-Banjo - National RM-1
Visit www.fox-guitars.com - cool Gibson & Epiphone history and more. Vintage replacement mandolin pickguards
Raphael Ciani Galiano circa 1920
Gibson F-5G FB 2003
John D'Angelico 1933
Vivitone Acoustic #338 circa 1933
Gibson F4 1915 Blacktop
Shutt/ Harmony Viol Mandolin circa 1930
Jim's post #6 is Vivitone #31 , 1933, Electrified Tenor Guitar.
On a side note, I went looking for 6321 Gratiot, Detroit, MI today and found an empty lot where the Vivitone Corporate Headquarters were. Any one have a metal detector?
Raphael Ciani Galiano circa 1920
Gibson F-5G FB 2003
John D'Angelico 1933
Vivitone Acoustic #338 circa 1933
Gibson F4 1915 Blacktop
Shutt/ Harmony Viol Mandolin circa 1930
From Jim's post #6. Acoustic Guitar. "small body (13" lower bout), spruce top with TWO small soundholes beneath bridge, carved spruce back with f holes, back set 1/2" into sides, 3 piece mahogany neck, bound ebony freboard. Two repaired back cracks, no top cracks, some cosmetic repairs to back of peghead, peghead overlay replaced, tailpiece is WW II era replacement, old refret."
Raphael Ciani Galiano circa 1920
Gibson F-5G FB 2003
John D'Angelico 1933
Vivitone Acoustic #338 circa 1933
Gibson F4 1915 Blacktop
Shutt/ Harmony Viol Mandolin circa 1930
I found this in another thread,http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/sh...on-a-bowl-back, but here is one of the other ViViTone partners, Lewis A. Williams.
Raphael Ciani Galiano circa 1920
Gibson F-5G FB 2003
John D'Angelico 1933
Vivitone Acoustic #338 circa 1933
Gibson F4 1915 Blacktop
Shutt/ Harmony Viol Mandolin circa 1930
Attachment 109192
Acoustic Guitar #47
http://www.skinnerinc.com/auctions/2180/lots/14
Raphael Ciani Galiano circa 1920
Gibson F-5G FB 2003
John D'Angelico 1933
Vivitone Acoustic #338 circa 1933
Gibson F4 1915 Blacktop
Shutt/ Harmony Viol Mandolin circa 1930
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