This weeks mandolin that won't get a bid or buyer

[Jim Garber]

I do think that a hollowbody electric does sound different than a solid body regardless if it has soundholes or not. The air space provides some resonance that would be different from a solid dense piece of wood.

[multidon]

Hopefully I will get the story right. If I make errors I’m sure I’ll be corrected.

As I understand it the story behind Gretsch making guitars with painted on f holes was a result of their association with Chet Atkins. He wanted hollow bodies without holes for his signature models to reduce feedback. Gretsch guitars traditionally had f holes and they thought that their guitars wouldn’t look right without them. The painted on f holes were a compromise so that Chet could get what he wanted and the “look” could still be preserved. The models that come to mind that had the painted on f holes were the Country Gentleman and the Tennessee Rose.

[pops1]

Hopefully I will get the story right. If I make errors I’m sure I’ll be corrected.

As I understand it the story behind Gretsch making guitars with painted on f holes was a result of their association with Chet Atkins. He wanted hollow bodies without holes for his signature models to reduce feedback. Gretsch guitars traditionally had f holes and they thought that their guitars wouldn’t look right without them. The painted on f holes were a compromise so that Chet could get what he wanted and the “look” could still be preserved. The models that come to mind that had the painted on f holes were the Country Gentleman and the Tennessee Rose.

I think this may apply here too, without ff holes the feedback potential would be reduced.

Not that Chet had anything to do with it.

[Roger Moss]

Hopefully I will get the story right. If I make errors I’m sure I’ll be corrected.

As I understand it the story behind Gretsch making guitars with painted on f holes was a result of their association with Chet Atkins. He wanted hollow bodies without holes for his signature models to reduce feedback. Gretsch guitars traditionally had f holes and they thought that their guitars wouldn’t look right without them. The painted on f holes were a compromise so that Chet could get what he wanted and the “look” could still be preserved. The models that come to mind that had the painted on f holes were the Country Gentleman and the Tennessee Rose.

I just had to check this out. here's a pic of a Chet Gretsch. You can see the glare on the "f-hole".

[Mark Gunter]

Still looks pretty cheesy on that thing Jim pointed to, along with so many other aspects of it. Doesn't look like a very professional lutherie job to me. I probably wouldn't have it at any price - well, maybe $20 tops. Yeah, I'd give $20 for it.

[Jess L.]

... As I understand it the story behind Gretsch making guitars with painted on f holes was a result of their association with Chet Atkins. He wanted hollow bodies without holes for his signature models to reduce feedback. Gretsch guitars traditionally had f holes and they thought that their guitars wouldn't look right without them....

My man tells me that modern Nascar race cars have painted-on headlights and other 'trim'. He says they do that to increase aerodynamic efficiency so that the cars perform better - and at the same time, the race teams (and their sponsors) want the viewers to see cars that look like 'normal' cars that a person might find for sale at a regular new-car dealership. The idea being that fans might wish to buy a car that *looks* similar to their favorite drivers' cars they see performing well on the racetrack, even if most everything "under the hood" (and suspension etc) is entirely different. Basically a marketing decision to keep audiences happy. So, the race cars *look* like regular street cars, as long as one doesn't look too closely to see the painted-on details.

That's what he says, anyway - I have not Googled it to see if he's right.

Anyway, to get back to the topic, the correlation I see with musical instruments would be similar - a painted-on feature to simulate something that audiences expect to see (which might help to promote sales of that instrument), but the actual feature being removed for some technical reason related to public performance (feedback, in this case).

[Roger Moss]

My man tells me that modern Nascar race cars have painted-on headlights and other 'trim'. He says they do that to increase aerodynamic efficiency so that the cars perform better - and at the same time, the race teams (and their sponsors) want the viewers to see cars that look like 'normal' cars that a person might find for sale at a regular new-car dealership. The idea being that fans might wish to buy a car that *looks* similar to their favorite drivers' cars they see performing well on the racetrack, even if most everything "under the hood" (and suspension etc) is entirely different. Basically a marketing decision to keep audiences happy. So, the race cars *look* like regular street cars, as long as one doesn't look too closely to see the painted-on details.

That's what he says, anyway - I have not Googled it to see if he's right.

Anyway, to get back to the topic, the correlation I see with musical instruments would be similar - a painted-on feature to simulate something that audiences expect to see (which might help to promote sales of that instrument), but the actual feature being removed for some technical reason related to public performance (feedback, in this case).

Hmmm... I was thinking of painting flames on my mandolin, but on second thought I don't want to tempt fate.

[Mark Gunter]

I pretty much hate the way ebay tracks anything I view and tries to hawk it through my email, but I thought this was pretty funny. They're notifying me that I can now save $3,795.00 by purchasing this item I happened to view a couple times. Who can argue with saving nearly $4k?


Save $3,795.00 for a limited time!

You viewed at $4,995.00. It was just discounted to $1,200.00.
Make an offer to strike an even better deal.

electric mandolin vintage probably made outside US actually sounds great!

$1,200.00

[Jeff Mando]

I used a similar technique, by accident, on eBay about 10 years ago. I had an item I was trying to sell at $800 and it was listed for probably a year with no sales, just a few "watchers." I got tired of it and lowered the price to $500 and it sold that very day!

Unfortunately, in this case, it is doubtful the mandolin is worth $200, let alone $1200........,IMHO.

[CarlM]

So, the race cars *look* like regular street cars, as long as one doesn't look too closely to see the painted-on details.

A friend of mine was an engineer on Danica Patick's team on a couple circuits she raced in immediately prior to her move to NASCAR. He had pictures of what is under the bodies of those vehicles. As he put it, they are aircraft built upside down. The frames are completely carbon fiber composite with all the parts, like tie rods, etc. shaped aerodynamically, computer designed and simulated and wind tunnel tested. The bodies are polymer composites, seats molded and form fitted to the individual driver. All the suspension, tire and engine parameters have full real time monitoring and telemetry with the ability to adjust things like suspension stiffness remotely on the fly. The cars are capable of being driven remotely from the pits though that is not done per league rules.

They are nothing at all like production vehicles in any way.

[Timbofood]

A friend of mine was an engineer on Danica Patick's team on a couple circuits she raced in immediately prior to her move to NASCAR. He had pictures of what is under the bodies of those vehicles. As he put it, they are aircraft built upside down. The frames are completely carbon fiber composite with all the parts, like tie rods, etc. shaped aerodynamically, computer designed and simulated and wind tunnel tested. The bodies are polymer composites, seats molded and form fitted to the individual driver. All the suspension, tire and engine parameters have full real time monitoring and telemetry with the ability to adjust things like suspension stiffness remotely on the fly. The cars are capable of being driven remotely from the pits though that is not done per league rules.

They are nothing at all like production vehicles in any way.

I am reminded of the Pixar movie “Cars” when the “working cars” see that pretty much anything on “McQueen” are all stickers, and gets the nickname “Stickers”.
Yep, there “ain’t no “stock” in stock car racing”

[mrmando]

Mando-Strat for a grand!

https://knoxville.craigslist.org/msg...620013184.html

[MikeZito]

Mando-Strat for a grand!

https://knoxville.craigslist.org/msg...620013184.html

Cut the price by 75%, and it will sell tomorrow . . . . otherwise, I hope they have plenty of closet space for this to sit for a while.

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https://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/ar...626761106.html

[Roger Moss]

https://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/ar...626761106.html

Oh, is that what "art" is. I had previously been misinformed. Not so much from an Art Colony as a Colony of Slippermen.

[Bertram Henze]

Bucket, please.

[Jess L.]

https://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/ar...626761106.html

If all I saw was the front, I might be able to tolerate it (briefly!) even though the creator put six 'strings' on it:



But they lost me once I saw the back. That poor non-mandolin is in desperate need of being hauled out & put in drydock to have the barnacles (or whatever those lifeforms are) removed:



One wonders what brand of actual old instrument lurks beneath the parasitic lifeforms that caused its unfortunate demise.

[Roger Adams]

Ummmm...."tacky" comes to mind.

[Mark Gunter]

Last two words of the description are spot on ... "rare item" ... thank heavens.

[Timbofood]

Well, it’s “pushing some buttons” around here!
Sorry, I’ll go to my corner now.

[Bertram Henze]

barnacles

I knew it, something made me think this would look good with Jack Sparrow - that was it.

[MikeZito]

At first look I thought this poor creature was covered with upside down bottle caps . . . upon second look, I think that might have been an improvement . . . .

[allenhopkins]

Calling Dr. Sandra Lee! (Some of you will get the reference...)

[pops1]

The only place I can think of that would be a good place to display this would be an antique store in the jewelry display.

[Steve VandeWater]

The only place I can think of that would be a good place to display this would be an antique store in the jewelry display.

I don't know. Have you seen pics of the interior at Mar-A- Lago? I think this would fit right in.