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    Is there a better way to do an E minor chop chord than 4223 or really high up the neck with A minor shape? They don't sound too good.

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    I'll often use 457x.
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    Thanks a lot! That sounds much better!

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    I didn't know you could chop chords with open strings.

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    there is a 9577, but it seems rather unwieldy the other high up .. 9 9 10 12

    maybe 0220 and dampen the ringing, short, with the palm of your right hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poener View Post
    I didn't know you could chop chords with open strings.
    Stop. 457x has no open strings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poener View Post
    I didn't know you could chop chords with open strings.
    Most people find that when they chop the bottom three, or even two, their hand does not strike the E string. If you are worried about it you can add the 7 there also (another B note), or just damp it by resting the pinky on the string at the 7th fret (right next to your 3rd finger that is playing the E note) or, if you are using the pinky to play the E, the middle part of that finger can damp the E string.

    The nice thing about 457 is that it easily converts to a an Em7 : 455, where generally the 2nd finger barres the 5th fret, and you can raise the middle part of that finger to easily damp the E sring. Of course that 455 is a G-major chord in the second inversion (B G D) but in context it can sound like an Em7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampstomper View Post
    Most people find that when they chop the bottom three, or even two, their hand does not strike the E string. If you are worried about it you can add the 7 there also (another B note), or just damp it by resting the pinky on the string at the 7th fret (right next to your 3rd finger that is playing the E note) or, if you are using the pinky to play the E, the middle part of that finger can damp the E string.

    The nice thing about 457 is that it easily converts to a an Em7 : 455, where generally the 2nd finger barres the 5th fret, and you can raise the middle part of that finger to easily damp the E sring. Of course that 455 is a G-major chord in the second inversion (B G D) but in context it can sound like an Em7.

    That's a great tip, thanks!!

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    I've used the 0520 to good effect on occasion.

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    This is Sgt. Mick of the Bluegrass Police. There is no such thing as a chop chord with open strings ... it's a myth ... like the Loch Ness Monster or Bigfoot.

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    Yes sir, you got it, Sgt. Mick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandroid View Post
    there is a 9577, but it seems rather unwieldy
    Just play 957x, I use it a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spencer View Post
    Just play 957x, I use it a lot.

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    Ditto. or 9570 if preferred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spencer View Post
    Just play 957x, I use it a lot.

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    No one's mentioned 422X ???
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    I don't like the sound of chop chords across all eight strings, it loses something of that thick woody bark. I usually finger a four finger chord but try to avoid hitting the E strings. 457 works for me.

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    Try a capo! (Just causing trouble)

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    Quote Originally Posted by D C Blood View Post
    No one's mentioned 422X ???
    Well, to me, you kind of need a G in there so it sounds like an E minor. Yes, E5 works over an E which is either major or minor, but an Em without a G doesn't sound right all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren Bailey View Post
    I don't like the sound of chop chords across all eight strings, it loses something of that thick woody bark. I usually finger a four finger chord but try to avoid hitting the E strings. 457 works for me.
    Serious question - what do you play for the famous bluegrass G chop - 7523? Do you leave the high G out of it? What do you finger for the 7452 D chop? I never even finger that one, just the 745x but more often 245x.
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    I hired Ronnie McCoury to chop the Em chord for me at all of my gigs......sounds good, and doesn't hurt my hand at all......
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    Blip, can you simply use 99xx (barre G and D with your forefinger)?

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    I'll occasionally use 4223 as an alternative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandolin Mick View Post
    This is Sgt. Mick of the Bluegrass Police. There is no such thing as a chop chord with open strings ... it's a myth ... like the Loch Ness Monster or Bigfoot.
    I beg to differ. The Mandolin Cafe' Glossary definition of a chop chord is: "A percussive chord that's typically dampened on the two and four beat on a 4/4 song or the two and three beats on a 3/4 song." You can do that on an open chord if you know how to do it. I admit does not sound quite as percussive or "bluegrassy" as a closed chop, but with the right technique it does not sound bad and it can provide an interesting variation to the closed chop.

    FWIW, I have always considered the Bluegrass Police to be a myth ... like the Loch Ness Monster or Bigfoot.

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